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[Shibby]

So my wife and I just watched a 43 minute video called "Creation: Science Confirms The Bible Is True". A guy at work asked me to watch and see what I think in effort to at least have me give it a chance. I did. All opinions aside, the guy speaking as an "expert" on what evolutionist believe biology tells us has a very poor understanding of biology and genetics. If it wasn't for watching it with my wife, a lot of the inaccuracies would have gone unnoticed to myself. I know I have gone back and forth a lot with people here and I'm not looking to debate facts and theories. All I would like to do is extend the challenge to the people of this board to either watch the video I did if you are non-religious or if you are religious to watch a single lecture/debate of similar length of Richard Dawkins or to see Bill Maher's new movie Religulous.

[Turbo3000]

I heard Religulous wasn't that good. I heard he stays on the same high points during his documentary and doesn't really go into deep questions regarding religion. The review led me to believe it is basically a full length film of his same jokes about religion that he uses on Real Time.

I will wait until DVD.

[Shibby]

Well I would recommend the Dawkins route for the most comprehensive look at atheism. But I know some people either don't want to listen to something that serious or won't be able to follow the scientific side of his discussion. I don't know if Religulous is a good movie to show atheism and the doubts of religion, but it's something new and could be entertaining. He didn't intend his movie to convert people, but to bring atheist's out of the atheist closet.

[3v1lj03]

Well I would recommend the Dawkins route for the most comprehensive look at atheism. But I know some people either don't want to listen to something that serious or won't be able to follow the scientific side of his discussion. I don't know if Religulous is a good movie to show atheism and the doubts of religion, but it's something new and could be entertaining. He didn't intend his movie to convert people, but to bring atheist's out of the atheist closet.

I love to listen to the atheists. So, how do I get this Dawkins thing without giving him any of my christen money?

[gdbear65]

I heard Religulous...
I will wait until DVD.

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to be honest I have no interest in hearing what creationists have to say - I think they're completely out to lunch. Who really cares how we originated? To me it is incomprehensible to everyone - no one knows with any certainty how we came to exist, so why not just leave it at that?

[Shibby]

I love to listen to the atheists. So, how do I get this Dawkins thing without giving him any of my christen money?

This is a lecture with excerpts from "The God Delusion" - YouTube - Dawkins in Lynchburg VA (part 1) The God Delusion



YouTube - Dawkins in Lynchburg VA (part 2) The God Delusion

This would probably more interesting to you and rare in a christian lecture. Dawkins publicly takes questions after reading the excerpts from anyone. The questions start off very calm and then people start getting more bold with their questions.

[3v1lj03]

Thanks I will check it ou

[Turbo3000]

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to be honest I have no interest in hearing what creationists have to say - I think they're completely out to lunch. Who really cares how we originated? To me it is incomprehensible to everyone - no one knows with any certainty how we came to exist, so why not just leave it at that?

I like your thoughts.

[FitnessBrat]

I like your thoughts.

Me too. However, people insist on "answers" - so that's never going to be good enough (regardless of the fact there isn't ever going to be one).

[mindstar]

Me too. However, people insist on "answers" - so that's never going to be good enough (regardless of the fact there isn't ever going to be one).

That drive is what has given humanity all of it's progress (and much of it's regression as well). It is a fundamental part of our nature.

[FitnessBrat]

That drive is what has given humanity all of it's progress (and much of it's regression as well). It is a fundamental part of our nature.

You're absolutely right :agree:

[Shibby]

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to be honest I have no interest in hearing what creationists have to say - I think they're completely out to lunch. Who really cares how we originated? To me it is incomprehensible to everyone - no one knows with any certainty how we came to exist, so why not just leave it at that?

What I got the most out of it is that I see more why theologists believe things about science the way they do. They trust the wrong person on the subject and I guess I feel sorry for them. It can be tough to ask the real questions without feeling a sense of self betrayal. Especially when "your" community, that you cherish for what ever reason, looks down on you for it.

[NewbieChris]

When I was a freshman in college there was a speaker who came to USC and gave a presentation about Evolution and creationism working hand in hand. I will tell you what, it was very interesting and thought provoking. It makes you ask a lot of questions of science, because we are so very stupid as a race. It is really something that should be taught, if not for diversities sake, for the soul purpose that it requires a person to think to answer a question, instead of just memorization.

That being said, Creationism isn't science and I don't believe it should be taught in science classrooms.

[Shibby]

When I was a freshman in college there was a speaker who came to USC and gave a presentation about Evolution and creationism working hand in hand. I will tell you what, it was very interesting and thought provoking. It makes you ask a lot of questions of science, because we are so very stupid as a race. It is really something that should be taught, if not for diversities sake, for the soul purpose that it requires a person to think to answer a question, instead of just memorization.

That being said, Creationism isn't science and I don't believe it should be taught in science classrooms.

The problem with trying to teach creationism along with science is; Which creation story do you teach and to what extent? The "science" that science teaches are experimental theories. You can't really test the theories of creationism in a scientific manner.

[NewbieChris]

The problem with trying to teach creationism along with science is; Which creation story do you teach and to what extent? The "science" that science teaches are experimental theories. You can't really test the theories of creationism in a scientific manner.

Yea, but you missed my last statement. All public and private schools should have a world theology class. In my opinion, for all intents and purposes, it is just as legitimate and important as a government class, world history class, etc. Nothing has made a larger impact on the world than theology and religion.