Gastric bypass surgery...

[Shibby]

[Shibby]

[Shibby]

I think you get the point. All those people are from The Biggest Loser

[Bouncer]

its a little off topic but certainly agree with you on that and im usually the last person to defend overweitght ppl. i could never be a trainer at a gym i have no patitiences for lazy ppl and how they can't stop drinking regular soda. they have no idea what it means to diet. contest prep i fucking starving all the time for weeks. i believe strongly in discipline .when it comes to GP were are not talking about ppl who need to sheld a few lbs or even a lot of lbs. such as the middle age housewife who lives a sedentary lifestlye and eats junk all day and smokes. complains about her w8t. the gastric bypass is severly overweight morbily o beses BMI over %40.0... its a food addiction ppl who overeating have underlining mental or pshycholigical reasons for the overeating. it could be they were molested as children or abusive families or tradgegy. you have to treat the condtiion that is cuasing the overeating. its complicated... its similar to the anorexia... ppl dont understand it... just fucking eat... you look like shit and your going to die. the additition to food which was developed over the persons entire life isnt going to be unravelled in easily and it some cases isnt a realistic gooal which we talk about here all the time. there parents took them out to eat for every meal they are obese before HS. its usually fast food joints which studies have found greasy food is addicting body craves it like cigarettes. its so ingrained into there personality and who they are the temptation for food is so great its like a drug addict living with drug dealers.

i understand the mental problem these people have with food. my argument is for the people that say, "they cannot lose weight without the surgery". these people act as if they have a physical problem that prevents them from losing the weight. if these people could over come their mental problems with food, they have all the tools necessary to lose the weight with diet alone. i do understand that the mental side of it prevents such clear thinking though, they feel trapped.

[Bouncer]

I think you get the point. All those people are from The Biggest Loser

there are people in far worse shape then them. i watched on TLC the other night a few people that were 800, 900, and 1100lbs. these people could not even get out of bed.

nothing changes though in terms of diet. if these people could dedicate themselves to diet, they would lose the weight. problem is, most cant dedicate themselves because like NYCmitch said, they have severe mental issues.

[NYCmitch25]

i understand the mental problem these people have with food. my argument is for the people that say, "they cannot lose weight without the surgery". these people act as if they have a physical problem that prevents them from losing the weight. if these people could over come their mental problems with food, they have all the tools necessary to lose the weight with diet alone. i do understand that the mental side of it prevents such clear thinking though, they feel trapped.

i see your point ... ppl babies them... "its not your fault..." i agree that is bs

[FitnessBrat]

its a little off topic but certainly agree with you on that and im usually the last person to defend overweitght ppl. i could never be a trainer at a gym i have no patitiences for lazy ppl and how they can't stop drinking regular soda. they have no idea what it means to diet. contest prep i fucking starving all the time for weeks. i believe strongly in discipline .when it comes to GP were are not talking about ppl who need to sheld a few lbs or even a lot of lbs. such as the middle age housewife who lives a sedentary lifestlye and eats junk all day and smokes. complains about her w8t. the gastric bypass is severly overweight morbily o beses BMI over %40.0... its a food addiction ppl who overeating have underlining mental or pshycholigical reasons for the overeating. it could be they were molested as children or abusive families or tradgegy. you have to treat the condtiion that is cuasing the overeating. its complicated... its similar to the anorexia... ppl dont understand it... just fucking eat... you look like shit and your going to die. the additition to food which was developed over the persons entire life isnt going to be unravelled in easily and it some cases isnt a realistic gooal which we talk about here all the time. there parents took them out to eat for every meal they are obese before HS. its usually fast food joints which studies have found greasy food is addicting body craves it like cigarettes. its so ingrained into there personality and who they are the temptation for food is so great its like a drug addict living with drug dealers.

I agree with you as well, but don't you agree that GP isn't going to "fix" any of that? Their physical appearance will be different, but they're still the same scarred person inside.

[NYCmitch25]

I think you get the point. All those people are from The Biggest Loser

bro thats a tv show... and dont they start off with a bunch of ppl any only a few actually lose the w8t lol... a bunch get injured. the point is it takes an extrodinary person to turn it around ... just not realistic... of coarse the have to want to lose w8t.. im done with this topic LOL.

with that said yes allot of them are lazy fucks who should get the motivation to change their lives... i will hurt us all if this country doesnt start retraining ppl on lifesytle choices.... it costs us all already a lot of money to deal with this...you will be affected in some way either by insurance premiums, oil prices (heavier ppl use more fuel LOL), food costs, etc.

[Shibby]

So because it's a tv show it didn't really happen? The fact is it can be done without surgery. The people like those on The Biggest Loser are the majority of people who get the surgery. The ones that can't even get out of bed are a rare few that might get the surgery. Most of the ones to big to get out of bed do not meet the prior requirements to have the surgery done.