CIA being investigated - Why? its was national security at stake

[Mr I]

So they bent the rules to get information from people they thought were holding out. But given what was at stake can you blame them?

I'm not saying that its ok to waterboard etc but if it was a case of a terrorist that knew of future attacks that would kill many people or he had information that would help stop future attacks or catch others that have comitted then sorry but that information needs to be got in a war against terror.

Clearly what then happens retrospectively is the senior bods claim they knew nothing about it, and it stops there, it called turning a blind eye.

As for the administration getting into deep investigations of the CIA's undertakings, it just seems stupid, your making the hamstrung by principles that enemies would willingly undercut to get what they want and making your own investigative powers frightened to get vital information that would threaten the security of the population.

Sorry to be a waysayer again but it just seems crazy

[3v1lj03]

.... your making the hamstrung by principles that enemies would willingly undercut to get what they want and making your own investigative powers frightened to get vital information that would threaten the security of the population.

It is all an ideological agenda. The last part is exactly the point of it of it.

[Bouncer]

bend the rules a little here and a little there.. where is the line. do you start bending the rules for the common crock. put his nuts on a stove top etc..

[the art of war]

bend the rules a little here and a little there.. where is the line. do you start bending the rules for the common crock. put his nuts on a stove top etc..

no wonder you are on - that shit is painful just thinking about.

[Bouncer]

think its spelled crook but who cares lol

[Mr I]

bend the rules a little here and a little there.. where is the line. do you start bending the rules for the common crock. put his nuts on a stove top etc..

I agree aswell kind of, its a catch 22 situation

[3v1lj03]

See I thought you were talking about cooking in stoneware.

[Bouncer]

I agree aswell kind of, its a catch 22 situation

yea, i mean, i couldnt give a fuck about the terrorist guy. light him on fire for all i care. but we have all seen what happens when the CIA, KGB, SIS (MI6), Mossad, etc.. go unchecked.

[the art of war]

yea, i mean, i couldnt give a fuck about the terrorist guy. light him on fire for all i care. but we have all seen what happens when the CIA, KGB, SIS (MI6), Mossad, etc.. go unchecked.

call it a necessary evil bro.

[Bouncer]

call it a necessary evil bro.

a necessary evil that still should follow guidelines and rules.

[the art of war]

a necessary evil that still should follow guidelines and rules.

concur.

[Shibby]

Sam Harris discusses this in his book. He talks about the use of individual torture is repulsive to most peoples minds. But dropping a bomb doesn't automatically give the images of innocents being tortured through fire, disfigurement and lost of other loved innocents.

[ROCKETW19]

Since we are talking about torture.
Stick a curling iron up his ass and turn it on! as it heats up slowly you will get the info you want before it even gets real hot.
I have pleanty more have the CIA call me.

[NewbieChris]

:hibb:

...your making the hamstrung by principles that enemies would willingly undercut to get what they want and making your own investigative powers frightened to get vital information that would threaten the security of the population.

Sorry to be a waysayer again but it just seems crazy

It's crazy to want to be better than someone who would do anything to harm you? It's not better to have respect for human life? That's not to say he is good, or worth saving. It is to say...you don't have the right to treat someone else in such a henious manner, just because he would do it to you. This is what I find most odd about our culture. We find the concept of respecting life so insignificant when we are afraid, yet somehow demonize the very acts we commit.

[Bouncer]

:hibb:

It's crazy to want to be better than someone who would do anything to harm you? It's not better to have respect for human life? That's not to say he is good, or worth saving. It is to say...you don't have the right to treat someone else in such a henious manner, just because he would do it to you. This is what I find most odd about our culture. We find the concept of respecting life so insignificant when we are afraid, yet somehow demonize the very acts we commit.

let me ask you chris, which culture is it that you want to be part of? i know it isnt the culture of any developed country. every chance you get you attack the very culture that allowed you to be raised by the silver spoon. so where you wanna go bro? africa, asia, a russian state..?