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  • #16
    Originally posted by redback View Post
    where the fuk did i say i wasnt training, i have been training my ass off ya douche, never did i say i wasnt training. Train 5 days a week.
    just make sure that you dont take in any protein bro. much easier on your kidneys if you just eliminate all protein.

    if you want to be really healthy be sure to cut out all carbs and fats too!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
      would exercising make 4 shakes fine in your mind? lol

      stick to facts and the science bro.
      In my mind no, because I know that I will benefit more from whole foods.

      Shakes as a supplement are fine post workout and make hours later.

      In my mind bro 2 shakes a day are a max and that only on training days. On days I don't train, 1 shake.

      Originally posted by redback View Post
      where the fuk did i say i wasnt training, i have been training my ass off ya douche, never did i say i wasnt training. Train 5 days a week.
      I thought you mentioned you weren't training and trying to diet in one of your older posts, sorry.

      Regardless, there is no need to bash protein supplements. You know they work, and you have always stuck to them. I am sorry your kidney results came back bad, but there is no need to point fingers and say its excessive protein when no stable data is there to show it.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
        oh yea? will he mention the massive amount of drugs that he used also?

        stfu.
        Guy has discussed it many times on the boards. He will talk pretty openly about his drug use. Docs will tell you protein and creatine can put stress on your kidneys its nothing new. Protein and creatine levels are two of the main things they check for when they do a kidney fucntion test. Believe what you like tho i couldnt give a crap:)

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        • #19
          Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
          just make sure that you dont take in any protein bro. much easier on your kidneys if you just eliminate all protein.

          if you want to be really healthy be sure to cut out all carbs and fats too!
          LOL you dickhead! Doesnt mean i have cut out shakes, i have cut down but i still use them.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
            i would disagree with that as a blanket statement.
            WTF is a blanket statement?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by jack tors View Post
              Protein Drinks: Consumer Reports Alert

              We purchased 15 protein powders and drinks mainly in the New York metro area or online and tested multiple samples of each for arsenic, cadmium, lead, and mercury. The results showed a considerable range, but levels in three products were of particular concern because consuming three servings a day could result in daily exposure to arsenic, cadmium, or lead exceeding the limits proposed by USP.

              We found that three daily servings of the ready-to-drink liquid EAS Myoplex Original Rich Dark Chocolate Shake provides an average of 16.9 micrograms (µg) of arsenic, exceeding the proposed USP limit of 15 µg per day, and an average of 5.1 µg of cadmium, which is just above the USP limit of 5 µg per day. Concentrations in most products were relatively low, but when taking into account the large serving size suggested, the number of micrograms per day for a few of the products was high compared with most others tested.

              The samples of Muscle Milk Chocolate powder we tested contained all four heavy metals, and levels of three metals in the product were among the highest of all in our tests. Average cadmium levels of 5.6 µg in three daily servings slightly exceeded the USP limit of 5 µg per day, and the average lead level of 13.5 µg also topped the USP limit of 10 µg per day. The average arsenic level of 12.2 µg was approaching the USP limit of 15 µg per day, and the average for mercury was 0.7 µg, well below the USP's 15 µg-per-day limit. Three daily servings of Muscle Milk Vanilla Crème contained 12.2 µg of lead, exceeding lead limits, and 11.2 µg of arsenic. A fourth product, Muscle Milk Nutritional Shake Chocolate (liquid), provided an average of 14.3 µg of arsenic per day from three servings, approaching the proposed USP limit.

              Cadmium raises special concern because it accumulates in and can damage the kidneys, the same organs that can be damaged by excessive protein consumption. And it can take 20 years for the body to eliminate even half the cadmium absorbed today.

              "This is a highly toxic metal, and while there are some cases where decisions have to be weighed against relative risks, accepting that you have to be exposed to any cadmium at all in your protein drink after your workout is definitely not one of them," says Michael Harbut, M.D., director of the Environmental Cancer Initiative at the Karmanos Cancer Institute in Royal Oak, Mich.

              "When these toxic heavy metals are combined in a product that is marketed for daily use, that raises serious public health concerns, especially for pregnant women, children, and young adults," says Burns, who has been a toxicology consultant to state and federal government agencies.

              For most people, protein drinks are not the only possible source of exposure to heavy metals, but they are an easily avoidable one, since most people can meet their protein needs, help minimize exposure to contaminants, and save money by choosing the right foods.

              Shellfish and organ meats such as liver can be high in cadmium, and some plant foods such as potatoes, rice, sunflower seeds, spinach, and other leafy greens can also take in significant amounts of the metal from the environment, due in large part to the use of cadmium-containing phosphate fertilizers, according to Bruce A. Fowler, a researcher at the federal Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry. Food and Drug Administration research suggests that foods such as milk, yogurt, eggs, poultry, and red meats are generally good protein sources that seem to contain little or no cadmium, lead, arsenic, or mercury. For perspective about the relative risks exposure to those metals can pose, consider the agency's list of 275 hazardous substances at toxic waste sites: Arsenic, lead, and mercury rank Nos. 1, 2, and 3, and cadmium is No. 7, based on risks to people around those sites.

              Robert Wright, M.D., an associate professor at Harvard Medical School, who is conducting research on the health effects of exposure to toxic metals, says, "Small amounts of exposure are inevitable, but a product that exceeds the USP limit is clearly doing something wrong."

              Being exposed simultaneously to a mixture of toxins can also potentially increase health risks, particularly when they target the same organs or systems, as some metals we detected do, according to Harbut. He says that this is the result of a synergistic effect, meaning the effects of two toxic substances together can be even greater than those of the sum of the two, and not enough research has been done to determine whether that occurs from multiple exposures to even relatively low levels of those heavy metals.
              thats crazy good post bro

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              • #22
                Where is this from?

                Who conducted the study?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by decadecadeca View Post
                  Where is this from?

                  Who conducted the study?
                  Protein Drinks: Consumer Reports

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                  • #24
                    Crap. I drink 3 of these a day. Need to figure out how to get my protein without relying on shakes - really hard to do as a vegetarian.

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                    • #25
                      I wish they tested more protein powders than just 15.

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                      • #26
                        Protein Drink Dangers - CBS News Video

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                        • #27
                          Sorry for drudging up an old thread, but it doesn't seem like there was any closer...

                          How are heavy metals getting into the food supply ? I don't know how much water or HFCS is used in the manufacturing process of protein powders
                          but there is mercury in the corn syrup that is contained in or used to sweeten a majority of processed foods.

                          Study Finds High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury

                          Study Finds High-Fructose Corn Syrup Contains Mercury - washingtonpost.com

                          No doubt supplement companies are using community water supply as the source of h20 in the creation of these powders,

                          "Ninety percent of the fluoride we use to fluoridate U.S. water systems comes directly from the pollution scrubbing systems of the phosphate fertilizer industry."

                          "industrial grade fluoride, known as hydrofluosilicic acid. As investigative journalist George Glasser has pointed out, this hydrofluosilicic acid contains trace amounts of numerous heavy metals such as lead, mercury, and arsenic."


                          How Much Arsenic is Fluoridation Adding to the Public Water Supply?


                          * 90% of the fluoride used to fluoridate US water systems comes from the pollution scrubbing devices of the phosphate fertilizer industry. It is industrial grade, not pharmaceutical grade.

                          * The most common contaminant found with the captured fluoride acid (hydrofluosilicic acid) is arsenic.

                          * When detected, the average amount of arsenic found in the acid would lead to levels of arsenic in drinking water of 0.43 parts per billion.

                          * If we include the samples that did not contain arsenic, the average amount of arsenic fluoridation is adding to the water would be 0.1 ppb.

                          * The level of arsenic in hydrofluosilicic acid varies, reaching levels high enough to produce concentrations of 1.66 parts per billion in water.

                          * According to risk estimates from the National Academy of Sciences, water containing 0.5 parts per billion arsenic presents a 1 in 10,000 risk of developing cancer.

                          * A study from Finland (Kurttio, et al, 1999) found that people drinking water with 0.1 to 0.5 parts per billion arsenic had a 50% greater risk of developing bladder cancer than people drinking water with less than 0.1 ppb.

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                          • #28
                            Much a do about nothing if you ask me. There's trace elements of these in many foods I'm sure, along with mercury etc etc. Take canned tuna for example, have one or two cans a day or per week that's finr, eat ten cans a day and one should be concerned about metal levels.

                            Diets should be built of fresh food in the main with supplements here and there.
                            Last edited by Mr I; 01-22-11, 05:26 AM.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post

                              Diets should be built of fresh food in the main with supplements here and there.
                              thats what i got out of it but some of these companies had ridiculous levels bro.

                              News | Optimum Nutrition: True Strength

                              Here is just one article among hundreds that were released after the consumer reports.

                              Our food and water have all if these elements in it as well..

                              Last edited by jack tors; 01-22-11, 07:33 AM.

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