american history question

[Mr I]

im not the one twisting shit around, you are, talking about muslims and shit.. please stfu before you hurt yourself.

you dont understand the subject or the culture in America at that time.

british americans who were born here considered themselves Americans, they fought for American issues and American beliefs, they fought for what effected their lives. there were british americans in the south and british Americans in the north, they fought on both sides.

the civil war had nothing to do with religion or your country of origin. it had to do with 2 different ways of life in america.

Lol!

[Mr I]

I'm so lost in this thread. Mr. I, are you asking if the brits supported slavery or not?

Lol at the black guy trying to turn it into a race issue! No sir I'm not asking that, it was a brit that initiated the end of slavery in the USA so I know the answer to that one already. It seems there's no answer to my question then or at least its not conclusive. Thanks all

[Shibby]

Who's the black guy?

[Bouncer]

Lol!

exactly.

[Bouncer]

it was a brit that initiated the end of slavery in the USA

once again your making statements that show you dont understand the situation or the scale of things.

no 1 person initiated the end of slavery and it certainly wasn't anyone born in Britain.

it was a combination of public pressure, economic issues, and the civil war itself.

do some more research on a little something called Emancipation Proclamation and the Thirteenth Amendment and who is responsible for creating them.

[Mr I]

once again your making statements that show you dont understand the situation or the scale of things.

no 1 person initiated the end of slavery and it certainly wasn't anyone born in Britain.

it was a combination of public pressure, economic issues, and the civil war itself.

do some more research on a little something called Emancipation Proclamation and the Thirteenth Amendment and who is responsible for creating them.

I said initiated not saying single handedly ended slavery. Yes it was a Brit.

[Bouncer]

I said initiated not saying single handedly ended slavery. Yes it was a Brit.

what you are saying is "it was a brit that was responsible for getting started the end of slavery in America". No it was not a Brit.

[Mr I]

what you are saying is "it was a brit that was responsible for getting started the end of slavery in America". No it was not a Brit.

OMG I give up, lincoln would be so disappointed in you

Read up on William Wilberforce, his efforts in Britain greatly influenced what happened in America and his work resonated round the world, its no coincidence the abolition of import of african slaves occurred very shortly in America after it occurred in GB.

But that was never the point of this thread until someone jacked it sideways :whistle

[Bouncer]

OMG I give up, lincoln would be so disappointed in you

Read up on William Wilberforce, his efforts in Britain greatly influenced what happened in America and his work resonated round the world, its no coincidence the abolition of import of african slaves occurred very shortly in America after it occurred in GB.

But that was never the point of this thread until someone jacked it sideways :whistle

giving him credit for ending slavery here in America or even getting it started is a huge over estimation and is a slap in the face to OUR leaders who were responsible for ending OUR own slave labor.

once again, you need to do a lot more research on OUR laws and culture if you want to understand OUR country. you come at this whole issue with a british slant and ignorance. put down your fucken flag for a second and take the time to learn the facts.

again, look up the Emancipation Proclamation and the Thirteenth Amendment and who is responsible for creating them if you want to know who truly got the ball rolling in OUR country.

[Mr I]

giving him credit for ending slavery here in America or even getting it started is a huge over estimation and is a slap in the face to OUR leaders who were responsible for ending OUR own slave labor.

once again, you need to do a lot more research on OUR laws and culture if you want to understand OUR country. you come at this whole issue with a british slant and ignorance. put down your fucken flag for a second and take the time to learn the facts.

again, look up the Emancipation Proclamation and the Thirteenth Amendment and who is responsible for creating them if you want to know who truly got the ball rolling in OUR country.

Lol, your arrogance is splendid, only bested by your stubborness the minute you pick a lane that's it, game over for anyone that has a personality and a point of view. Our views do not have to be mutually exclusive, wilberforce didn't end slavery but he was the worthy of credit in the initial drive to do so. Speaking of ignorance why don't you check out what your own former president Abe Lincold said of Wilberforce then contrast that with your point of view. Stop trying to recreate history and stop exagerating what I say to corral it into an extreemist point of view so as to give your view more credit, anyone with an IQ over 40 can see straight through it.

[Shibby]

Since the original americans were british, that would mean they started slavery. :D

[Mr I]

Since the original americans were british, that would mean they started slavery. :D

no doubt buddy, started it, initiated the ending of it and sold arms to those that supported it, its called civilization!:thumup:

p.s. I think you'll find the original Americans were already native though, somewhat overlooked in contrast to the whole rise of the blacks thing but actually there were indigenous people already there commonly called Indians. But yeah I guess the British were the next most significant race who started to create the civilization.

[Bouncer]

wilberforce didn't end slavery but he was the worthy of credit in the initial drive to do so.

he is worthy of credit in the initial drive to end slavery IN BRITAIN.

he had nothing to do with ending slavery here other then to serve as an influence on what the right thing to do is.

you want to give credit to him because he is British but never mind OUR people who worked, fought, and died to end slavery in OUR country.

[Bouncer]

p.s. I think you'll find the original Americans were already native though, somewhat overlooked in contrast to the whole rise of the blacks thing but actually there were indigenous people already there commonly called Indians. But yeah I guess the British were the next most significant race who started to create the civilization.

wow. did you just say the Native American Indians were overlooked by the "whole rise of the blacks thing".

you understand very very little about American history and culture. your statement above dosen't make sense nor is it correct in any way.

[Mr I]

wow. did you just say the Native American Indians were overlooked by the "whole rise of the blacks thing".

well you just read Shibby say the first Americans were British!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!