83% of doctors consider quitting over Obamcare

[FitnessBrat]

Yeah fuck it. Let the working man pay for it with his taxes.

Not just that, but the stereotyping is unreal. I personally do not have health insurance, and I can ensure you every one of my bills is paid. Will it suck if I need some type of surgery - absolutely. But I'm no lowlife in the meantime.

[Bouncer]

Yeah fuck it. Let the working man pay for it with his taxes.

well said! :thumup:

get to work, i need more hormona!

[Bouncer]

Not just that, but the stereotyping is unreal. I personally do not have health insurance, and I can ensure you every one of my bills is paid. Will it suck if I need some type of surgery - absolutely. But I'm no lowlife in the meantime.

relax, nobody called you a lowlife for fuck sake. he was talking in generalities. i really doubt he meant the offence that you took it as.

[Juiced1]

News Flash people... We already have fucking universal health care. You get in a car wreck they aren't checking your insurance card before the call an ambulance. My wife was been a nurse for 10 years. Over half of the moms that come in don't have insurance. They still deliver the babies. If the baby is sick. They still take care of them. They idea that we don't take care of sick or hurt people in this country is rediculous. So you get a bill down the road. Chances are if you don't have health insurance you have fucked up credit anyway. Just don't pay the damn thing like your other bills.

This is absolutely true, which is why we need healthcare reform. Guess who ends up paying those bills? The govt/taxpayers. This is why the new healthcare law forces everyone to have some type of insurance. Obamacare is not universal healthcare, it's healthcare reform to stop some of the madness you just posted about.

[Juiced1]

Not just that, but the stereotyping is unreal. I personally do not have health insurance, and I can ensure you every one of my bills is paid. Will it suck if I need some type of surgery - absolutely. But I'm no lowlife in the meantime.

What he's saying is true though, people still go in and get care and just throw the bill in the garbage and then it goes on their credit and nothing else happens. Then the taxpayers pay for it.

[FitnessBrat]

relax, nobody called you a lowlife for fuck sake. he was talking in generalities. i really doubt he meant the offence that you took it as.

It's not that I took personal offense, I just think it's an unfair judgement.

And don't tell me to relax. I can post from the opposite side of the spectrum, thanks.

[FitnessBrat]

What he's saying is true though, people still go in and get care and just throw the bill in the garbage and then it goes on their credit and nothing else happens. Then the taxpayers pay for it.

I get what you're saying, however, if someone goes in for major surgery and their stay costs $200k, they probably owe a good 20%. You think the average health insurance carrier is paying/affording $40k - probably not.

[Bouncer]

It's not that I took personal offense, I just think it's an unfair judgement.

And don't tell me to relax. I can post from the opposite side of the spectrum, thanks.

wouldn't you agree though that his statement was at least partly true? there are MANY people that take huge advantage.

[FitnessBrat]

wouldn't you agree though that his statement was at least partly true? there are MANY people that take huge advantage.

Absolutely. I just don't think you should ever make such blanket statements to a group of people you don't know. Almost like if I say "yeah chances are Bouncer gets food stamps because he's black" :wacko:

[Bouncer]

Absolutely. I just don't think you should ever make such blanket statements to a group of people you don't know. Almost like if I say "yeah chances are Bouncer gets food stamps because he's black" :wacko:

"steroid users are mental cases"

TRUE! :thumup:

[Archenemy]

This is absolutely true, which is why we need healthcare reform. Guess who ends up paying those bills? The govt/taxpayers. This is why the new healthcare law forces everyone to have some type of insurance. Obamacare is not universal healthcare, it's healthcare reform to stop some of the madness you just posted about.

This is the problem.... Right now say someone has surgery without insurance. They are left with a huge medical bill. If they don't pay, the hospital writes it off on taxes and receives a credit toward their tax bill. New plan... Individuals that can't afford health insurance are reimbursed via tax credits. I don't see how that is real different(as far as middle class tax payers are concerned).

[Juiced1]

Absolutely. I just don't think you should ever make such blanket statements to a group of people you don't know. Almost like if I say "yeah chances are Bouncer gets food stamps because he's black" :wacko:

But, seriously. Why don't you have health insurance? You can get a basic major medical plan for anywhere from $90-$300 per month depending on the deductible you choose. Would cover major surgeries etc, but not routine stuff.

[Bouncer]

juiced, with a $90 a month insurance plan the deductible would be the cost of the fucken major surgery. lol

[FitnessBrat]

But, seriously. Why don't you have health insurance? You can get a basic major medical plan for anywhere from $90-$300 per month depending on the deductible you choose. Would cover major surgeries etc, but not routine stuff.

Um, just is what it is at the moment.

$90 a month wouldn't get me an insurance plan worth a darn. I'd rather save the money and pay for what I need as I go (aside from major surgery).

[Archenemy]

Absolutely. I just don't think you should ever make such blanket statements to a group of people you don't know. Almost like if I say "yeah chances are Bouncer gets food stamps because he's black" :wacko:

The majority of black folks are on food stamps???? In other news... Water is wet

Oh I am just kidding before I piss anyone else off. I certainly didn't mean to offend you. My apologies...