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Not one to brag and will only complement countries, we don't boo here. I will say that team GB have utterly dominated the cycling events! Go GB
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two new world records for the Brits today and another gold just now in cycling
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GB in 4th on medals, I rest my counter case!
Once track events start I suspect things may change and USA will skyrocket
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I wouldn't trade democracy for all the riches in the world. But that being said, India seriously needs to get its shit together as far as corruption is concerned. It is like a cancer, eating away at everthing there and things will not get better if that is not fixed.Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Postwould you rather india remain how it is or be more like china if you had the choice between the 2?
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would you rather india remain how it is or be more like china if you had the choice between the 2?Originally posted by Scrumhalf View PostChina and India are a very good comparison. Both are large countries with a huge impoverished rural population. Both have shitty Asian genes, average dude is 5'5, 110 lbs....... only difference is the political and institutional will to decide they are going to compete and go make it happen with some level of integrity.
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China and India are a very good comparison. Both are large countries with a huge impoverished rural population. Both have shitty Asian genes, average dude is 5'5, 110 lbs....... only difference is the political and institutional will to decide they are going to compete and go make it happen with some level of integrity.
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very interesting.Originally posted by Scrumhalf View PostRemember bro, both China and North Korea are authoritarian communist regimes. So, you can make things happen top-down. If the Premier of China decides that he wants to invest in gold medals in say 4, 8 or 12 years, he can go in, take promising 8 year olds and put them in sport schools for the next 10 years to groom a champion. India is a democracy, so it is hard to do that kind of thing. China has corruption too, but I think in those countries you can enforce discipline a bit better.
India has the worst of both worlds - the freedom that democracy provides without the integrity and discipline that is needed in that kind of environment to ensure that the right things happen.
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America invests in atheletes, son of a friend o mine goes to stanford, he plays golf and they were best sponsors even though he's english, universities here didn't want to know, guy plays off -3 and he's 18 years old, future pro in the making, there he gets free board, all his shit taken care of
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Remember bro, both China and North Korea are authoritarian communist regimes. So, you can make things happen top-down. If the Premier of China decides that he wants to invest in gold medals in say 4, 8 or 12 years, he can go in, take promising 8 year olds and put them in sport schools for the next 10 years to groom a champion. India is a democracy, so it is hard to do that kind of thing. China has corruption too, but I think in those countries you can enforce discipline a bit better.
India has the worst of both worlds - the freedom that democracy provides without the integrity and discipline that is needed in that kind of environment to ensure that the right things happen.
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interesting how different nations deal with things. hell, even North Korea has more medals and i think most of us know India is a better place then fucking north korea.
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Dammit, I was hoping nobody would notice.. :(Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Postthat reminds me, scrum what the hell is india's deal? they have like what a billion people? you would think they could get something together for fuck sake.
PIssed about it. One world - corruption.
There's no reason why India cannot compete. The problem is endemic corruption - there is money but it lines the pockets of the officials. People running the federations are not sports people but relatives of politiicians who siphon the funds and nothing goes to the training of the athletes.
It's fucked up, no solution in sight. If you read the Indian papers, every 4 years after the Olympics are over, there is hand wringing about how bad the team did, but nothing changes.
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that reminds me, scrum what the hell is india's deal? they have like what a billion people? you would think they could get something together for fuck sake.
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