Rec Drug users, is this accurate?

[Bouncer]

All that shit you put yourself through to feel "nice"? :wack:

The how and why of heroin addiction. - YouTube

[ROCKETW19]

All that shit you put yourself through to feel "nice"? :wack:

The how and why of heroin addiction. - YouTube

oh ya sounds about right!
try it and tell me what you think. LOL never mind please do not cuz it is no joke. AOW will tell you first hand it is no joke and that is the truth

[BBAddict]

I dunno, but doesn't it sound pretty shitty getting drunk and doing things you regret later and being sick and getting a hangover and waking up with who knows who with who knows what disease. I think you could say the same about the abuse of a lot of things that are probably OK in moderation but causes issues it's not abused...food, weed, steroids ... just saying.

[Bouncer]

oh i have been drunk more times then i can count. but i cant imagine NEEDING it to feel "normal".

[BBAddict]

I'm not saying I'm the cleanest guy around but addiction to any "drug" can be destructive. I bet there's h users that don't abuse it and come out ok, just like coke and weed. I've destroyed relationships and myself at times with my workout addiction--just saying a lot of things are only bad when they obsess your life. I still have to train to feel normal. Been sick for a couple days and feel like a fat pig and down on life...need my next hit of iron!

[FitnessBrat]

I'm not saying I'm the cleanest guy around but addiction to any "drug" can be destructive. I bet there's h users that don't abuse it and come out ok, just like coke and weed. I've destroyed relationships and myself at times with my workout addiction--just saying a lot of things are only bad when they obsess your life. I still have to train to feel normal. Been sick for a couple days and feel like a fat pig and down on life...need my next hit of iron!

I don't know about that. I don't think you can casually use heroin. :confused:

[Juiced1]

oh i have been drunk more times then i can count. but i cant imagine NEEDING it to feel "normal".

Is it true that you need hormona to feel normal at this point in your life?

[GrowthMan]

All that shit you put yourself through to feel "nice"? :wack:

The how and why of heroin addiction. - YouTube

Im afraid to comment...but yeah for the most part its accurate.

[Mr I]

Wow, thats pretty scary how it creeps up

[the art of war]

bro i don't even know where to begin...

when I shoot dope my mind instantly changes and no matter how much clean time I have it goes right back to square one - all the problems I'll have worked on , all the good shit in my life I've earned , it will all vanish and the only thing that I think about is H. As a physiological addiction being dope sick gets worse and worse, I stopped getting "high" years ago and became the definition of insanity, doing the same thing over and over and expecting that this time.. this time it will be different. I'll somehow maintain and function, this time I'll feel that first high. The first time I did an opiate I instantly, literally within a second thought "this is the only way I ever want to feel" - it's taken 8 years for me to understand addiction well enough to start to fight for my life and work recovery program that retrains my mind to not live under a false obsession that I will somehow be better off using.

Drug addiction truly is devastating and I would do absolutely anything to not be an addict, but I am and I have no excuse to ever use again. I know enough now that if I relapse I own it fully and pray that my run is short and that I make it back alive.

I honestly am terrified that one day I will wake up and be lazy with my program, i won't hit my knees and pray to my higher power - won't call my sponsor - I'll just go and cop, and maybe my family will show up at my funeral but that would be it. If i stay clean I have no fear of death, but the disease of addiction is selfish and selfcentered - I lost all respect for myself, didn't care if i lived or died, all I cared about was not being dope sick.

In all seriousness I wish for one minute a non addict could feel what it is like to be dope sick and to jones out - especially understanding what it will do to your life and STILL saying fuck it, I'm getting faded and that's all that matters.

Sensitive subject for me, I've been doing really well, but you better believe the first thing I did this morning was pray that I don't pick up today - I always will have another run in me, i don't know if I will have another recovery.

[the art of war]

I don't know about that. I don't think you can casually use heroin. :confused:

I've had clients that are lawyers for example who shoot dope once or twice a month - it honestly made me bat shit crazy that someone could do that. Alcoholism runs so deep in my family it's no shock that genetically I was predisposed to addiction, but some people can use heroin or any substance once in awhile.

What normally happens though with the "casual" user is that they go months, maybe years even and then go on a week long run - wake up dope sick and are like , "what the fuck is this" start freaking out and bam - call to cop. Then it's over, they are about to embark on a road to hell. So, while it is incredibly rare it does happen - the vast majority however simply end up progressing until they lose enough to realize they need help. For me it was instantaneous with opiates and I haven't felt "nice" on H for years, before I went to rehab last time I was speedballing and using my benzo prescriptions to just try to recapture that high (benzos and opiates bind synergetically and are a sure fire way to die overdosing as they cannot use narcain to bring you back, your CNS simply shuts down for good).

God this whole thread I could go on for days, but long and short of it before I quit hustling my three rules were no first time users, no chicks, and no one under 18. I know that sounds like a joke to a lot of people but bitches snitch and I refuse to sell poison to children / teenagers or be the one to enable a first timer. I hate addiction and as stated pray that I never ever forget what it did to my life. I always remember the "good times" (they were not good, my disease makes me remember it that way), if I don't consistently remind myself the REALITY of it, I will relapse. It's simple, I either want to live or I don't. I not only want to live, I want a life I can be proud of.

[Turbo3000]

Addiction isn't real, it is a word man created to pawn off the choices that we make. We hate to admit that something is our fault, using words like addiction allow us to not admit that we made a bad choice.

Addiction is a disease, yeah fucking right. Where can I catch this alcoholism disease? Crowded restaurant? Open liquor bottles? Obesity is a disease? Do I catch that in the kitchen?

Classifying this shit as a disease is a great way for treatment centers to get ample government funding, drug companies to come up with drugs that "block" your receptors (trading drugs for drugs), and to create a lot more different jobs that all deal with helping people with their "addiction".

[the art of war]

Turbo look @ the MRIs from McLeans hospital, i always thought the exact same as you - you can see for yourself if you want. It's been proven bro. It doesn't make me any less responsible, and anyone who uses it as an excuse is not acknowledging the selfishness of it.

[blm]

Addiction isn't real, it is a word man created to pawn off the choices that we make. We hate to admit that something is our fault, using words like addiction allow us to not admit that we made a bad choice.

That's a very ignorant perspective.

[Turbo3000]

That's a very ignorant perspective.

Explain?

How is ingesting/smoking/injecting/snorting something not your own CHOICE? I did a lot of crazy shit when I was young and I knew it was all choices that I made. It felt good at times to believe that I was addicted, but at the end of the day I made choices to do what I was doing.