What Really Causes Heart Disease

[Scrumhalf]

Tell me about the billions spent to develop a medication to make your eyelash grow? Man that sounds like a huge problem in the world.

What about the numerous (about to be one added to the list) medications for ED, so many people are dying due to a limp dick.

Three is a huge market for it. So there are companies that develop these products.

In the same way, there is a huge market (not to mention glory, everlasting fame and other intangibles) for cures for hitherto-incurable diseases. If there is a cure, it will be found and you can bet companies are working as hard as possible to find it.

I am sorry but your argument seems to support my position.

[Turbo3000]

They may not care about my well being. But they care about making money. And I can't think of a surer way of making money than to find the cure for an as-yet incurable disease. This is why we need to get our information from the right sources.

I have faith in well designed placebo controlled double or triple blinded studies from independent and academic researchers. I make sure I know if they investigators have any affiliation with the companies involved. If the researchers receive monetary support from the company, or if the work is done by the company itself, my radar goes off and I am cautious. If the trial design is flawed (I have a very good background in statistics as part of my professional training), my radar goes off. Nothing beats using your brain and thinking.

Not to beat my own drum, but to suggest that I am a pharma fanboi is selling me somewhat short.

I bet Goodyear could topple previous profits by releasing a tire that never needs to be replaced, Hmmmm I wonder how many people they have working on that idea. I mean it would be billions of dollars in revenue, and then people wouldn't need to buy more tires......

[Turbo3000]

Three is a huge market for it. So there are companies that develop these products.

In the same way, there is a huge market (not to mention glory, everlasting fame and other intangibles) for cures for hitherto-incurable diseases. If there is a cure, it will be found and you can bet companies are working as hard as possible to find it.

I am sorry but your argument seems to support my position.

Not really. If there is so much to gain, then they would invest the billions in incurable diseases, not ED medication.

I have worked in this industry for years, it is a lot more tainted then the public would like to believe.

[Turbo3000]

Three is a huge market for it. So there are companies that develop these products.

In the same way, there is a huge market (not to mention glory, everlasting fame and other intangibles) for cures for hitherto-incurable diseases. If there is a cure, it will be found and you can bet companies are working as hard as possible to find it.

I am sorry but your argument seems to support my position.

Also, drug companies create their own markets. They release solutions to problems that don't exist, that is how you make billions.

[Scrumhalf]

Are there companies that put profits first? Sure. Are there companies that push drugs to market with questionable testing? Perhaps. But I don't buy the argument that there is a global big-pharma conspiracy to suppress life saving treatments. There is no logic to support that scenario.

[Turbo3000]

Are there companies that put profits first? Sure. Are there companies that push drugs to market with questionable testing? Perhaps. But I don't buy the argument that there is a global big-pharma conspiracy to suppress life saving treatments. There is no logic to support that scenario.

That isn't a perhaps, that is becoming the norm. For example, go read up on Zetia, studies have shown its efficacy to be on par with placebo, yet the amazing FDA let it hit the market, and those awesome genius doctors prescribe it every single day.

I am not talking about a conspiracy, and that word is thrown around at an attempt to discredit people.

And just so you know, there are not that many pharmaceutical companies. We have a few big ones, those are the ones with the bucks for R&D, and those are the same ones with the lobbying power. Plenty of small labs exist that produce generic drugs, but they are not players in this game.

You are imaging this world where healthcare is black and white, and that just isn't the case. It is about $$, not health, not curing disease, not notoriety.

[Bouncer]

i dont have 1 fucken clue what you assholes are saying.