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[Turbo3000]

Wtf? Tax from amazon?

Yep. Ga passed a law about a year ago. Sucks. Taxed when you make money and spend money.

[FitnessBrat]

Wtf? Tax from amazon?

It started with select states and then spread. It sucks. :(

[Bouncer]

Well this is odd, I looked it up and apparently they collect tax for Cali also. Thing is, I've ordered a bunch of little things from amazon and there has never been any tax added. Wonder if they only apply it to items over a certain amount?

Amazon collects tax in 23 states: Arizona, California, Connecticut, Florida, Georgia, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia, Washington, West Virginia and Wisconsin.Mar 4, 2014

[Turbo3000]

The Vizio has landed. I really feel that I got a great deal for 801. The 60 inch is perfect, a great upgrade from my 42 incher.

Thanks again B. I had looked at some 4k Vizios and failed to read about the e series, very satisfied with this purchase. Best buy delivery was great also.

[blm]

You did get a great deal.

[Bouncer]

yea good stuff turbo. insane how prices have dropped.

I remember buying a 1080i 65 inch DLP around 2006 when I lived in Raleigh for $4000 and thinking I got a pretty good deal. lol. I don't think anything in the tech world has dropped in price as much as TV's. Maybe data storage.

[TrapsBrah]

You better be sitting closer than 8 feet to take advantage of 4k. My 50 inch plasma is 8 feet away and at that distance a person with 20/20 can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4k

[Scrumhalf]

Yep, most people sit too far away from their TVs.

[Scrumhalf]

I have a 70 inch TV and when I got it a few years ago, I tried to set the sofa at 8 feet to get the full 1080p benefit based on that same graph you posted. My wife keeps complaining that it is too close. She is always pushing the sofa back and I keep sliding it back closer when she isn't looking lol...

[Bouncer]

Only time I sit close to the TV is when I
play PS4. I sit about 5 feet from screen.

[chuckz28]

Those charts are such bullshit. If your best buy is set up like mine then they have a 4 k and a 1080p next to each other playing the same thing. You can stand 10feet back across the double wide aisle and see a massive difference in clarity. Sure you can't see individual pixels at that distance but the sum of the pixels is what matters. One looks damn near blurry next to the other.

[Bouncer]

Agree and disagree. I agree that those charts aren't entirely real world accurate. I disagree in that you say "each playing the same thing". This is not true. If the source material is 1080p the 4k will look no different. Its only if the 4k set is displaying 4k content that the major difference is seen.

[chuckz28]

Agree and disagree. I agree that those charts aren't entirely real world accurate. I disagree in that you say "each playing the same thing". This is not true. If the source material is 1080p the 4k will look no different. Its only if the 4k set is displaying 4k content that the major difference is seen.

I don't know what they had going on but they were playing the same thing, timed the same. Maybe it was the tvs up conversion maybe it was two feeds. Point being they looked different playing the same thing which is what they were trying to showcase.

I'm not one to be able to tell the difference in high bit rate audio or low. They all sound the same to me but when it comes to visual differences I have an eye for detail.

[Bouncer]

"Up conversion" is an artificial process. You can't add information to the picture. If the source is 1080p that is all the 4k tv has to work with.

Its a bit like cranking the contrast and back light up and lowering the brightness. The picture will appear to "pop" more and look less washed out. Many people would say it looks better like that. That is until you realize that all detail has been lost in dark scenes. This is called black crush. Its a common trick used in stores. Same effect can be seen with turning the sharpness setting up. If you step back it will appear to be a better picture. In reality all you've done is added artificial lines. Just because something appears more "crisp" or "pops" more it is not always better.

[chuckz28]

I know the tricks they use as well as what up conversion does but in most scenarios up conversion still looks better than a lower res fee, unless it is a poor algorithm and processor handling the up conversion. Not as good as a straight feed of higher resolution but it sits in between nicely. Water for instance usually gets messed up in up conversion. What I am talking about what saw wasn't a difference in contrast, color or brightness but clarity. Surely there were differences in all those things but it is like looking at a photo from a shitty old camera compared to a high resolution dslr. The difference was obviously much higher as you got real close and from there you could see the differences in contrast etc. I just don't see how anyone could take a 2mp image blown up to a 55" size and an 8mp image at 55" and say they don't see a difference. 2mp isn't even suitable for 4x6 print.