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  • #61
    Originally posted by rado View Post
    and being on AS is counterintuitive to what you're trying to accomplish with the pills.

    Hopefully you've had a good profile on your blood work to compare before and after. Only way to see true facts as opposed to rats or mice lab results. And if they were done on people, I'm certain they probably don't lift or live a healthy lifestyle.

    I know you have a mentality of justifying everything but I'm not buying the overkill on pills. If that were so true, you'd have millions of American people trying to get the quick fix.
    Well I mean that's exactly why I'm interested in fish oil in the first place. To try and minimize blood pressure issues as best I can from steroid use. You can't hold it against me for trying my best to stay healthy while using AAS. Would you rather I have a Boston Loyd type attitude towards health?

    Btw bro, millions of Americans do try to get the "quick fix" regardless of if something works or not.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
      Well I mean that's exactly why I'm interested in fish oil in the first place. To try and minimize blood pressure issues as best I can from steroid use. You can't hold it against me for trying my best to stay healthy while using AAS. Would you rather I have a Boston Loyd type attitude towards health?

      Btw bro, millions of Americans do try to get the "quick fix" regardless of if something works or not.
      I think the majority of people are looking for a quick fix. The diet and supplement industry wouldn't be worth billions if everyone decided to eat veggies, chicken, and oats all day.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Turbo3000 View Post
        Fish oil is available in prescription strength that is higher than OTC. If taking OTC it would be advisable to take a higher dose if looking for benefits. Prescription medications are studied on human subjects, so many studies regarding humans and fish oil have been completed.

        Blood thickening and AS, you guys are obsessed with that shit. I would be more concerned about clotting due to your ancillary meds than the roids. A couple of studies showed increase risk of clot with test, but it isn't known if those people were just at a higher risk due to other means. The jury is still out on testosterone and clotting. I'm not saying it doesn't increase your risk, but your SERMs are the component to be worried about "thickening" your blood.
        I'm actually referring not just to the "blood thinning" benefits of fish oil but also it's ability to lower over all blood pressure in people with hypertension. That's my main reason for using it at high dose to try my best and counter the blood pressure increase from AAS especially orals.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
          I'm actually referring not just to the "blood thinning" benefits of fish oil but also it's ability to lower over all blood pressure in people with hypertension. That's my main reason for using it at high dose to try my best and counter the blood pressure increase from AAS especially orals.
          I know. I was just pointing out the clotting issue because it seems to always be brought up.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Turbo3000 View Post
            I think the majority of people are looking for a quick fix. The diet and supplement industry wouldn't be worth billions if everyone decided to eat veggies, chicken, and oats all day.
            Exactly. Not sure what point Rado was going for with that one.

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Turbo3000 View Post
              Fish oil is available in prescription strength that is higher than OTC. If taking OTC it would be advisable to take a higher dose if looking for benefits. Prescription medications are studied on human subjects, so many studies regarding humans and fish oil have been completed.

              Blood thickening and AS, you guys are obsessed with that shit. I would be more concerned about clotting due to your ancillary meds than the roids. A couple of studies showed increase risk of clot with test, but it isn't known if those people were just at a higher risk due to other means. The jury is still out on testosterone and clotting. I'm not saying it doesn't increase your risk, but your SERMs are the component to be worried about "thickening" your blood.
              I'm aware of the scripted oil pills. I don't do serms or anything else...I keep my oils simple and at times I only use hcg which I've proven to myself that it works well.

              Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
              Well I mean that's exactly why I'm interested in fish oil in the first place. To try and minimize blood pressure issues as best I can from steroid use. You can't hold it against me for trying my best to stay healthy while using AAS. Would you rather I have a Boston Loyd type attitude towards health?

              Btw bro, millions of Americans do try to get the "quick fix" regardless of if something works or not.
              not knocking you so don't take it as that. Just for me, taking THAT many pills ED on top of whatever else you're on, well I'm seeing it as overkill.

              But if it works for you then :thumb::grin:

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              • #67
                Originally posted by rado View Post
                I'm aware of the scripted oil pills.
                Seems to be a contradiction to your previous post.

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by rado View Post
                  I'm aware of the scripted oil pills. I don't do serms or anything else...I keep my oils simple and at times I only use hcg which I've proven to myself that it works well.

                  not knocking you so don't take it as that. Just for me, taking THAT many pills ED on top of whatever else you're on, well I'm seeing it as overkill.

                  But if it works for you then :thumb::grin:
                  Bro if something is proven to only work at a certain dose and ineffective at a lower dose how can it be considered overkill?

                  I'd agree with you if fish oil was proven at 1 gram and I was taking 5 grams. All I'm doing is taking the same dosing protocol proven for blood pressure in studies.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Turbo3000 View Post
                    Seems to be a contradiction to your previous post.
                    I have a different outlook on pills that are given a script on as to supps. I don't buy-in to the supps that are fish oils or any other bs.

                    And I said I'm aware, how the fuck is that contradiction? <<>>>rhetorical


                    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                    Bro if something is proven to only work at a certain dose and ineffective at a lower dose how can it be considered overkill?

                    I'd agree with you if fish oil was proven at 1 gram and I was taking 5 grams. All I'm doing is taking the same dosing protocol proven for blood pressure in studies.
                    never said low dose is overkill, I said all those pills is, that's all.

                    But anyway, post up blood work and hopefully good results will come from it bro.

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                    • #70
                      On a related note, I'm happy to say my resting heart rate has come down by about 10 beats per minute since I've dropped C4 Pre Workout from my routine.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by rado View Post
                        I have a different outlook on pills that are given a script on as to supps. I don't buy-in to the supps that are fish oils or any other bs.

                        And I said I'm aware, how the fuck is that contradiction? <<>>>rhetorical


                        never said low dose is overkill, I said all those pills is, that's all.

                        But anyway, post up blood work and hopefully good results will come from it bro.
                        Fish oil isn't a BS supplement. It has a lot of data behind it. The majority of data showing the effects it can have lowering triglycerides.

                        You said he was taking too many pills and that the studies were conducted on animals. I then corrected your wrong assumptions and you stated that you "know about fish oil being a prescription med", you can't have it both ways. That is the contradiction.

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Turbo3000 View Post
                          Fish oil isn't a BS supplement. It has a lot of data behind it. The majority of data showing the effects it can have lowering triglycerides.

                          You said he was taking too many pills and that the studies were conducted on animals. I then corrected your wrong assumptions and you stated that you "know about fish oil being a prescription med", you can't have it both ways. That is the contradiction.
                          Bro he has a different outlook that's all. If you told him 4+4=8 he may have a different outlook and say the answer is 9. Nobody is right or wrong in never never land otherwise known as radotown.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Turbo3000 View Post
                            Fish oil isn't a BS supplement. It has a lot of data behind it. The majority of data showing the effects it can have lowering triglycerides.

                            You said he was taking too many pills and that the studies were conducted on animals. I then corrected your wrong assumptions and you stated that you "know about fish oil being a prescription med", you can't have it both ways. That is the contradiction.
                            Let me clarify myself a tad better for the white man. For me, if it's a script, it's legit...it's purity Is great, no bs, all good stuff.

                            If it's a supp that is produced by masses and it's one of those companies that are run out of china, india, texas, your backyard etc...then that's what I call bs.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by rado View Post
                              Let me clarify myself a tad better for the white man. For me, if it's a script, it's legit...it's purity Is great, no bs, all good stuff.

                              If it's a supp that is produced by masses and it's one of those companies that are run out of china, india, texas, your backyard etc...then that's what I call bs.
                              Yet you use protein powder, multi vit etc.. once again you're a contradiction..

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                                Yet you use protein powder, multi vit etc.. once again you're a contradiction..
                                Is this thread not about the weather? Now it's about fish pils, 4+4=8 bs, ur heart rate is 10 less, etc....oy vey

                                Let's stay on track here nancy...fucking ay

                                Who said anything about my powder? Good try man, as always
                                ..changing direction for the upper hand

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