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[Bouncer]

and you only use it when your feel your life is at risk... You carry your pepper spray..we will carry our lead... again..I refuse to be a victim..for anyone...its well work the risk.. as you call it IMO.

You would be a victim though my brother. It seems you would only realize that once your dragged through the court system and have to watch your daughter go grey in prison because she is a convicted murderer. But hey... At least she's not a victim huh rip!

Just to be clear. I'm not saying that's what she would deserve. Hell brother I agree with you, a rapist deserves nothing less then a bullet in the fucken head! BUT the law would most likely see this very differently. Especially on campus where she wasnt supposed to have a gun and its her word agaisnt the dead.

[TKD]

and you only use it when your feel your life is at risk... You carry your pepper spray..we will carry our lead... again..I refuse to be a victim..for anyone...its well work the risk.. as you call it IMO.

Think about a most likely situation. Not one that is completely out of control.

Now does going straight to pulling a gun sound like the best option or even a good one?

How about deescalating. Even lie that you will be right back or something, and never coming back, before it gets to the point of trying to convince the assaulter to stop.

Going from a bad situation to a life and death situation is very extreme. Sure it can happen quickly but a person needs to be taught how to think and not rely on a gun to do the talking for them.

[lipripper]

I understand your view Bouncer... again..I have mine.

Scrum..hardned criminal..or school kidd committing a rape...sorry buddy..no difference...rape is rape..IDC who it is..no mercy

[lipripper]

Think about a most likely situation. Not one that is completely out of control.

Now does going straight to pulling a gun sound like the best option or even a good one?

How about deescalating. Even lie that you will be right back or something, and never coming back, before it gets to the point of trying to convince the assaulter to stop.

Going from a bad situation to a life and death situation is very extreme. Sure it can happen quickly but a person needs to be taught how to think and not rely on a gun to do the talking for them.

Look..dont be an ass..I never said straight pulling out a gun ..its a last fucking resort...period. if you dont understand that..look it up.

some people believe in gun rights and self protection..others dont..your choice..just like I have mine.. you dont have to like it..and I dont have to like yours. I respect your choice. I really dont give a damn if anyone respects mine..its mine to make. Live your life your way..Ill live mine..my way in the limits of the law.

[Bouncer]

Rip I don't think anyone here wants mercy for a rapist. We are just saying a gun will get your daughter in a shit load of trouble on campus.

Hell I can see the headline now, "another shooting on campus". She'd be seen in a pretty bad light brother. Best intention but I fear a bad outcome for her. Its not right but its reality.

[lipripper]

Rip I don't think anyone here wants mercy for a rapist. We are just saying a gun will get your daughter in a shit load of trouble on campus.

Hell I can see the headline now, "another shooting on campus". She'd be seen in a pretty bad light brother. Best intention but I fear a bad outcome for her. Its not right but its reality.

yea well I rather see that then some piece of shit rape her. PERIOD. If you ever have a daughter..you will understand. raping her...would be just like killing her..probably worse...that is what you dont get..

[TKD]

I understand your view Bouncer... again..I have mine.

Scrum..hardned criminal..or school kidd committing a rape...sorry buddy..no difference...rape is rape..IDC who it is..no mercy

Where are you imagining that gun she needs will be when needed during a rape? On her hip? Would she even be carrying the gun to say a party? That's where pepper spray is practical. It can be carried about anywhere with no concern. If she is able to get to the self defense device and use it accurately she can also probably get away.

Again what is most likely. Would she be somewhere by herself out of earshot of others with someone she is willing to shoot? Or would she be at a place with a lot of people and accidentally shot am innocent through a wall.

[Bouncer]

yea well I rather see that then some piece of shit rape her. PERIOD. If you ever have a daughter..you will understand. raping her...would be just like killing her..probably worse...that is what you dont get..

I do understand your point bro I really do. And trust me, put a gun in my hands and a rapist in front of me I'd probably blow his fucking head off.

I'm just trying to come up with a best of both worlds scenario where the rape is prevented and she doesn't get in trouble.

[rado]

pepper spray.... sorry bud..I got my daughter a .380 for her 21st birthday, got her her concealed carry permit and taught her how to use it..

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[Scrumhalf]

Better look for colleges in Idaho, Utah and Colorado. They are the only states where concealed carry is allowed on campus. Yeehaw... cowboy country FTW! :D

Colleges and Universities where concealed guns are permitted

[TKD]

Look..dont be an ass..I never said straight pulling out a gun ..its a last fucking resort...period. if you dont understand that..look it up.

some people believe in gun rights and self protection..others dont..your choice..just like I have mine.. you dont have to like it..and I dont have to like yours. I respect your choice. I really dont give a damn if anyone respects mine..its mine to make. Live your life your way..Ill live mine..my way in the limits of the law.

Sorry I am not trying to sound like that. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. Just trying to give perspective of what the realistic situation would be.

[lipripper]

Where are you imagining that gun she needs will be when needed during a rape? On her hip? Would she even be carrying the gun to say a party? That's where pepper spray is practical. It can be carried about anywhere with no concern. If she is able to get to the self defense device and use it accurately she can also probably get away.

Again what is most likely. Would she be somewhere by herself out of earshot of others with someone she is willing to shoot? Or would she be at a place with a lot of people and accidentally shot am innocent through a wall.

not your concern..where or when or how she carries, shes leagle trained and licensed...if you dont do anything to her where she feels her life is threatened..youll never know shes carrying..

[rado]

I carry mine everywhere I go, except places I can not...federal type of buildings....gym? In my gym bag next to me....work? Ha ha....I carry it on me and not one motherfucker can tell wtf to do because it's my business, grocery shopping? On me...bed time? Next to me on my shelf....I truly hope I don't have to use it one day on someone...I'm one happy trigger pulling Puerto Rican and I've got plenty of practice shots to prove it:P

[rado]

not your concern..where or when or how she carries, shes leagle trained and licensed...if you dont do anything to her where she feels her life is threatened..youll never know shes carrying..

:clapback:I like how you think.... ;) my father has similar views and thoughts like you....BUT, you still a honky tonk pig killin hog cookin fish nabbler country ass jawja boy:wave::grin:

[lipripper]

I carry mine everywhere I go, except places I can not...federal type of buildings....gym? In my gym bag next to me....work? Ha ha....I carry it on me and not one motherfucker can tell wtf to do because it's my business, grocery shopping? On me...bed time? Next to me on my shelf....I truly hope I don't have to use it one day on someone...I'm one happy trigger pulling Puerto Rican and I've got plenty of practice shots to prove it:P

I hear ya..hell I had my .45 on the beach this weekend in my tackle bag as we were surf fishing:thumb: