20 Hurt 10 Dead Oregon School Shooting

[Bouncer]

The man accused of killing nine people at a community college in Oregon left behind a manifesto detailing his grievances, US media report.

Chris Harper Mercer opened fire on Thursday inside a classroom at Umpqua Community College and then killed himself when police arrived.

A police source told the Associated Press that Mercer complained in the document about not having a girlfriend.

He also wrote that everyone else was "crazy" and that he was the sane one.

Mercer is also said to have written that other mass killers "were denied everything they deserved and wanted" before going on to say he did not believe anything could "make me realise I had so much going for me", People magazine reported, quoting a source close to the investigation.

Meanwhile President Barack Obama announced on Monday that he would travel to Roseburg, Oregon, on Friday to visit survivors and relatives of the victims.

Oregon community college gunman 'left behind manifesto' - BBC News

[Bouncer]

Besides closing the loopholes (in some states) on background checks at gun shows, what other laws should be put in place that will help to bring gun violence down? Seems like liberals say we need to have more gun laws but I have yet to hear any. Tell me what laws would have prevented any of the school shootings. And don't say ban all guns because that will not happen.

Maybe a psychiatric evaluation by a group of physiologist to avoid bias? The group would be like a jury with different views and opinions that have to come to some consensus. That's my bright idea.

[Turbo3000]

I'll tell you what isn't working.....Gun Free zones. These scared cowards pick places that advertise to be fun free. They don't want a fight and they damb sure don't want resistance.

[Turbo3000]

Abortion as in like 7-8-9 months I'd see your point but sounds like your talking about formation of embryo type shit. To me that's just matter and DNA, not a living thinking human.

He is pounting out a sad fact. People care about what the media and politicians tell them to care about. Gun violence is the buzzword that everyone is hyper focused on. How about knife violence? Domestic violence? Vehicular violence? People are killed everyday and yet many think that getting rid of guns will solve all the problems in the world.

[Chadd77]

Follow Australia and the UK

Again, explain the specific laws we should be implementing. And how do you enforce these laws on the criminals?? You think they will turn their guns in and won't be able to have access to them on the black market??

[Mr I]

Follow Australia and the UK

[Chadd77]

Besides closing the loopholes (in some states) on background checks at gun shows, what other laws should be put in place that will help to bring gun violence down? Seems like liberals say we need to have more gun laws but I have yet to hear any. Tell me what laws would have prevented any of the school shootings. And don't say ban all guns because that will not happen.

[chuckz28]

Not talking embryo. The 7 characteristics of life according to biology and 5 of them must be met to be considered life. Middle stages of development meet 5 characteristics yet middle stages are legal to abort. Even beyond that in the simple litmus test of knowing whether or not to pronounce someone dead is a heartbeat yet it isn't applied in the womb. Medicine has also shown life to survive outside of the womb at earlier development than ever before yet laws haven't changed to prevent a forceps from being shoved in the back of their skull.

But this depth of discussion is better served for another forum topic rather than this one. Since the discussion is about what to change in order to save lives this is just my comparison of what should be changed that people ignore.

[Bouncer]

Abortion as in like 7-8-9 months I'd see your point but sounds like your talking about formation of embryo type shit. To me that's just matter and DNA, not a living thinking human.

[chuckz28]

Hey I'm liberal on a lot of issues bit guns and abortion isn't two of them.

[Bouncer]

Any statistic can be skewed to back an opinion.

And abortion yes. You can turn a blind eye to one form of killing and in some fucked up way justify it, but get pissed about another. It's fucking sickening.

1 more confirmation that Ohio is indeed a southern state. You'd fit right in down yonder in Georgia.

[rado]

And then THIS

Tennessee Boy, 11, Charged With Killing Girl After Argument Over Puppies - NBC News

Oh man oh man...I'm honestly confused. How the hell does, never mind....

[chuckz28]

Any statistic can be skewed to back an opinion.

And abortion yes. You can turn a blind eye to one form of killing and in some fucked up way justify it, but get pissed about another. It's fucking sickening.

[TKD]

Did you just bring abortion into this? Lmao.

I was going to ask the exact same thing. Instead I just left. To actually draw that comparison and have someone else agree, left me without words.

[Bouncer]

But just think how many more people would populate the planet if we didn't kill each other off... A few innocents die in a sea of criminals and everybody flips out. It boggles my mind how someone can kill innocent children that they don't want in the womb and people don't get upset about it saying my percieved right is greater than the life of another person, but since the media only reports the negativity with guns and not the positives people get all flustered and angry at the object. Double standards everywhere. Firearm ownage is in the Constitution, don't like it gtfo.

Did you just bring abortion into this? Lmao.