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  • #16
    Bro, you had what in any medical sense is a major life event. There's a lot of advice in this thread and I won't comment on them, but bro science is fun when you don't have this kind of medical situation. I don't know what the drug interactions are and I certainly won't be adding MORE supplements to counteract whatever it is I read on the internet regarding these drugs. I know what I would do - get off anything that the doctor does not know about and follow his/her instructions. Get a second opinion as well if you like (do your research on good doctors) just to make sure you are doing everything you need to.

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    • #17
      Mr I makes a point I didn’t think about. Wonder if my blood would be too thin if I dropped the test? I was also running deca which I dropped last week because I didn’t like the way it was making me feel. I was running it at 150mg/week. Guessing that is still in my blood though. Still think it is probably best to just come off and run a small pct. I don’t feel conformable talking to the neurosurgeon about my test use.

      I appreciate all the concerns guys! Crazy experience. The neurosurgeon said that it had nothing to do with ago or health. Can happen to anyone but usually occurs after having trauma to a specific area (my neck). Still thinking I did it training back last week.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
        that's very close to natty levels. I don't see the point in staying on at all in his situation. if it was a guy that was running 500+ mgs for years I'd completely agree with you.
        False

        He's not a young pup

        Also if he comes off completely gonna feel crap. He's not going to be training so doesn't need more.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
          by the way chadd, you a fishoil user? I know we are starting to get into bro science territory but everything i've read says that fishoil acts as a thinner as well. might want to just consider using that after the 3 months of thinner medication is over.
          I was but ran out about a month ago and still haven't picked up another bottle.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
            Bro, you had what in any medical sense is a major life event. There's a lot of advice in this thread and I won't comment on them, but bro science is fun when you don't have this kind of medical situation. I don't know what the drug interactions are and I certainly won't be adding MORE supplements to counteract whatever it is I read on the internet regarding these drugs. I know what I would do - get off anything that the doctor does not know about and follow his/her instructions. Get a second opinion as well if you like (do your research on good doctors) just to make sure you are doing everything you need to.
            Thanks scrum. It does make a lot of sense to stop everything.

            What are you thoughts of me being on test and deca while having my blood thickness tested? You think it would get too thin if I dropped it all?
            Last edited by Chadd77; 04-02-16, 12:45 PM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Mr I View Post
              False

              He's not a young pup

              Also if he comes off completely gonna feel crap. He's not going to be training so doesn't need more.
              So is this about "feeling like crap" or the effect of blood thickening by AAS?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
                Thanks scrum. It does make a lot of sense to stop everything.

                What are you thoughts of me being on test and deca while having my blood thickness tested? You think it would get too thin if I dropped it all?
                I'm reading between the lines in scrums post. He's saying get off everything and don't listen to the bro science.

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                • #23
                  I get it just trying to see if he understands the blood thickness test being on a low dose of the test and deca.

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                  • #24
                    Monitoring "thickness/thinness" that Mr.I is talking about is old school and really only done with warfarin. The new anticoagulants aren't monitored in that same sense. Lots of bro science in here.

                    I would get off the test. Do you pay the bills with your body? If not, drop that shit.

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                    • #25
                      The doses and length that you run I'm telling ya the effect is minimal.

                      If it was me on 500+mgs for months and months I'd be on board with Mr i

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                      • #26
                        I have no problem coming off just wanted to be certain it was the safest thing for my body.

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                        • #27
                          Hey Chad, first and foremost I'm glad you're alive and well. That definitely is a scary situation. Good advice in this thread, i would come off and listen to the doctors and go from there.

                          Take the time off, heal, and get back to 100%. Best of luck

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                          • #28
                            Everyone always automatically jumps to this "come off all drugs" knee kerb reaction luke a 3rd grader lol

                            Sometimes it's the worst thing you can do.

                            Also, you then g
                            Have to think about the PCT etc interactions.

                            Some really though essential posts in this thread. If you aren't someone that has used and cycled etc for years and had tests along side you really have no place commenting.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                              Bro, you had what in any medical sense is a major life event. There's a lot of advice in this thread and I won't comment on them, but bro science is fun when you don't have this kind of medical situation. I don't know what the drug interactions are and I certainly won't be adding MORE supplements to counteract whatever it is I read on the internet regarding these drugs. I know what I would do - get off anything that the doctor does not know about and follow his/her instructions. Get a second opinion as well if you like (do your research on good doctors) just to make sure you are doing everything you need to.
                              Again, worst possible advice from someone that knows nothing of the subject

                              Jeez

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Chadd77 View Post
                                It does make a lot of sense to stop everything
                                It should be NO hesitation period.

                                If you're right about what happened, yea get clean and healthy again. The gear will always be there so fuck it for now..

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