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What does Hillary have to do with anything? We are talking about Pre-Trump and Trump. Hillary never entered the picture.

It has to do with the doomsday clock changing a week after Trump took office when we had a very dangerous situation with Russia that would have stayed dangerous only the scientists wouldn't have brought the ole doomsday clock out. My argument is that we were in more danger of going to war with Russia and it would have continued with Hilary.

China and America need each other to much. We will have no war between us. But Russia was a very real and dangerous scenario.

I'm no Trump fan. But you hate him so much that you can't see something very simple and basic. This clock got brought out in part due to trumps attack on science organizations. If you don't think it has anything to do with politics you have zero common sense.

You're the smartest guy on the forum but God damn man your blinded by your disgust for him.

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That's not making any sense.

Hillary was a war hawk for sure, bit Obama if anything was too hands-off on Syria. There's no way Obama and Putin would have got into a armed confrontation over Syria.

You keep bringing up Russia. Russia is not the issue with Trump. He's not going to get in a tiff with Russia. It's the Middle East and other areas which are the concern.

Yeah, I don't like Trump. But it's because I think he's incompetent and borderline crazy. I'm not blinded by anything. In fact, there are few things in which I am as clear headed as this guy.

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That's not making any sense.

Hillary was a war hawk for sure, bit Obama if anything was too hands-off on Syria. There's no way Obama and Putin would have got into a armed confrontation over Syria.

You keep bringing up Russia. Russia is not the issue with Trump. He's not going to get in a tiff with Russia. It's the Middle East and other areas which are the concern.

Yeah, I don't like Trump. But it's because I think he's incompetent and borderline crazy. I'm not blinded by anything. In fact, there are few things in which I am as clear headed as this guy.

Lol wut? You are the one making little sense. There was increasing tensions with Russia and it was only building with Obama and Hilary. Yet the doomsday clock was not brought out on display.

Tensions with Russia are much less with Trump as him and Putin seem fond of each other. This is a good thing in terms of a doomsday scenario.

You're either misunderstanding what I'm saying or you've had too much to drink tonight.

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I am done explaining. For the millionth time, this has nothing to do with Russia. There was zero chance of a nuclear war between the US and Russia, so tensions between them, while undesirable, are not going to cause the end of the world. Handing over nukes to a middle Eastern country, or thinking you can use tactical nukes, on the other hand is a DISASTER!!!! And only one guy is even contemplating something that... our guy! AND.. the guy thinks global warming is a Chinese plot! THAT is the reason why the doomsday clock was moved closer to midnight after Trump came along, not before.

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How can you possibly say there was zero chance of war with Russia or how far that could have gone? One of those Russian jets flying close to our ships happens upon a trigger happy US naval captain and shit could have hit the fan. Please stop dismissing how dangerous things got with Russia the last few years.

I would say with Trump in, there is zero chance of war with Russia. Not before. And considering how much the Chinese and American economies need each other there is zero chance of War with China. The 3 most powerful nuclear nations with zero chance of war and the doomsday clock comes out? Lol

Bringing the clock out now and not before despite the ever increasing tensions with Russia is a political statement by those scientists. They may be correct, but they are also biased as you are even if they don't realize it..

And btw, nobody is arguing the temperament or statements made by trump. I agree with you, he can be a bit of a nutter. But doomsday is no closer then it was at the height of Russian tensions the last few years. Sorry, that's the inconvenient truth. Those scientists are 100% anti trump. With his stance towards the scientific community in general how could they not be? I'm anti trump when it comes to his stance on science and the environment. But that doesn't mean I can't see bias from those very people.

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I give up.

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We agree on Trump as a person. I'm not defending him. I just think you have too much of a bias to even begin to admit that I have even the smallest point...

If Trump does anything good during his Presidency I genuinely believe you will be unable to praise him or give him any sort of credit at all. In the same way that ripper found it impossible to praise Obama for anything at all.

Bias gives you a a foggy view on reality.

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Can someone please explain, the whole woman's March thing in respect of abortion.

What is it they want changed exactly? I mean as far as I know trump has not outlawed abortion or did I miss something?

they were marching for his attitude and comments towards women in general as far as I'm aware.

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I give up.

Lol...

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We agree on Trump as a person. I'm not defending him. I just think you have too much of a bias to even begin to admit that I have even the smallest point...

If Trump does anything good during his Presidency I genuinely believe you will be unable to praise him or give him any sort of credit at all. In the same way that ripper found it impossible to praise Obama for anything at all.

Bias gives you a a foggy view on reality.

I think you are selling me way short. He said that his medical plan will have coverage for everyone. Now I don't believe that for a minute but if he can pull that off (with no gotchas, in other words, GOOD coverage for everyone), I'll be the first to stand up and applaud him.

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I think you are selling me way short. He said that his medical plan will have coverage for everyone. Now I don't believe that for a minute but if he can pull that off (

with no gotchas, in other words, GOOD coverage for everyone)

, I'll be the first to stand up and applaud him.

nice caveat

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nice caveat

How do you know such a word and who taught you how to use it in context? Lol

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