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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    You clearly stated "the punishment suited the crime".

    Unbelievable. He committed multiple crimes that day Rado. His punishment is nothing but deportation which means nothing to him. He's already been through that process 5 times.

    This is a absolute failure of the justice system and you are defending it..
    The charge suited the crime, is what I meant and should have said.

    Yes the punishment regardless of what he did, isn't justifiable I agree.


    But look into the gov't prosecuting Mexicans for these types of crimes, I encourage you to look.


    Happy findings lol....just doesn't happen

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    • #17
      Well if that's the case we have a major fucken problem with our justice system.

      Imagine me going to China or Russia and doing exactly what he did?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
        Well if that's the case we have a major fucken problem with our justice system.

        Imagine me going to China or Russia and doing exactly what he did?
        And as I said, you too would eventually be let go.

        You would spend years in confinement doing appeals, and the U.S. govt would intervene to prosecute you here.


        But to be sentenced in another country and being American?! Yea shit won't fly

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        • #19
          Originally posted by rado View Post
          And as I said, you too would eventually be let go.

          You would spend years in confinement doing appeals, and the U.S. govt would intervene to prosecute you here.


          But to be sentenced in another country and being American?! Yea shit won't fly
          Man I'd be in fucken Siberia digging coal mines for 50 years.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
            Man I'd be in fucken Siberia digging coal mines for 50 years.
            Lol


            But seriously brother....look some stats up.

            Mexicans always get deported back, even some of the heinous crimes they do.

            The U.S. govt has tried to prosecute Mexicans and it never works.

            The reason El Chapo is even being prosecuted in the U.S. is because we did a deal with the Mexican govt to have him sent here.

            You know how many years it took to get El Chapo here? Lol


            It's better to send them back and hope they never do swing back over, but they do come back.

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            • #21
              Rado is right.

              This was a total fuckup by the prosecutors. They overreached and try to paint this guy out as a demon. The defense calmly pointed out that this was a tragic accident.

              You got to remember - leave the fact that they guy is illegal, etc. etc. out of the picture. That has NOTHING to do with the case. It could have been John Smith. So, don't blame the jury. They could only rule on what was put in front of them.

              Read this for a clear, level headed explanation of what happened.

              https://www.modernluxury.com/san-fra...-you-didnt-see

              Again, not defending the guy or anything. But the jury got it just right BASED ON THE CASE AS THE PROSECUTORS PUT IN FRONT OF THEM!!! Which is all you can expect them to do and what you SHOULD expect them to do.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                Rado is right.

                This was a total fuckup by the prosecutors. They overreached and try to paint this guy out as a demon. The defense calmly pointed out that this was a tragic accident.

                You got to remember - leave the fact that they guy is illegal, etc. etc. out of the picture. That has NOTHING to do with the case. It could have been John Smith. So, don't blame the jury. They could only rule on what was put in front of them.

                Read this for a clear, level headed explanation of what happened.

                https://www.modernluxury.com/san-fra...-you-didnt-see

                Again, not defending the guy or anything. But the jury got it just right BASED ON THE CASE AS THE PROSECUTORS PUT IN FRONT OF THEM!!! Which is all you can expect them to do and what you SHOULD expect them to do.
                Bravo!


                From the get go, the govt fucked up. They wanted to slam the door on this guy and make an example of him. Again, what he did was wrong and without doubt, I'd want more justice.


                HOWEVER.....based on facts, stories, witnesses etc....he was dealt the right charge but the punishment, well obviously not.

                The U.S. govt knows better than to prosecute Mexicans

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                • #23
                  Unless you've been through the system, it is very hard for the average person to understand or comprehend how the system at times, works for the criminals better than the victims.

                  It's been this way for centuries.

                  It's ALWAYS about money....and monies lead into other venues

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                  • #24
                    I get what you guys are saying from a "by the books" standpoint. I'm just saying all the crimes he committed that day and he gets no punishment. Imagine what that family is going through. Zero justice.

                    And imagine what would have happened to me as an American citizen if I had committed those crimes. Fucked up.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                      I get what you guys are saying from a "by the books" standpoint. I'm just saying all the crimes he committed that day and he gets no punishment. Imagine what that family is going through. Zero justice.

                      And imagine what would have happened to me as an American citizen if I had committed those crimes. Fucked up.
                      Go to Mexico and do the same as he did. You'll be arrested, jailed(probably gang banged too, true story)and the US embassy will intervene.

                      Then you get an attorney, fight 2 to 3yrs of appeals and then guess what? You'll be finally let go to come here and face prosecution.

                      The Mexican govt has no good on keeping you, period. Hell you might be killed before you get out.

                      Now this story.....why waste money on this pos, his crime merits a life sentence, and have tax payers money pay more money already? For what? To feed, house and clothe him?

                      Man send that pos back to Mexico.

                      Now how can that be justified for what he did? You can't, I would want to kill him myself.

                      But the truth of the matter is, that's our system.

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                      • #26
                        Blame the prosecutor. Not the city, not the immigration system, not the jury. The prosecutor tried to pin this guy for something that they defense easily countered and the jury was not willing to buy the prosecution's claims.

                        Sucks for the family, no doubt. But their anger should be towards the DA and whoever was responsible for the prosecution's strategy.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                          Blame the prosecutor. Not the city, not the immigration system, not the jury. The prosecutor tried to pin this guy for something that they defense easily countered and the jury was not willing to buy the prosecution's claims.

                          Sucks for the family, no doubt. But their anger should be towards the DA and whoever was responsible for the prosecution's strategy.
                          I do believe the hype Trump brought to this guy when it happened, didn't help the prosecution at all.

                          People of the jury don't care about voices, rumors, media, etc....it is facts that they go off by and all the talk Trump did, it didn't help.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                            Blame the prosecutor. Not the city, not the immigration system, not the jury. The prosecutor tried to pin this guy for something that they defense easily countered and the jury was not willing to buy the prosecution's claims.

                            Sucks for the family, no doubt. But their anger should be towards the DA and whoever was responsible for the prosecution's strategy.
                            no scrum this is where i firmly disagree. while the prosecutor may hold some blame the main focus of blame should be on the criminal. he is the one that "found the gun" he is the one that decided it would be a good idea to pull the trigger in a crowd of people, he is the one that ultimately killed that woman.

                            fuck this blame everyone but the criminal mentality.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                              no scrum this is where i firmly disagree. while the prosecutor may hold some blame the main focus of blame should be on the criminal. he is the one that "found the gun" he is the one that decided it would be a good idea to pull the trigger in a crowd of people, he is the one that ultimately killed that woman.

                              fuck this blame everyone but the criminal mentality.
                              This is why we have laws. Ok so blame him right? But why are you so angry? Because the system/prosecution didn't get it right.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by rado View Post
                                This is why we have laws. Ok so blame him right? But why are you so angry? Because the system/prosecution didn't get it right.
                                Because an innocent woman is dead and a criminal goes free in a country he was illegally in for the 5th time.

                                Again I understand what you guys are saying from a by the book of law perspective. But I'm looking at this from a moral perspective.

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