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  • #46
    Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
    You are trying to tell me you were including yourself in "Americans are stupid" comment? Bullshit. You were standing back and pointing your finger. Now your playing the race card with my Indian comparison which was only brought up to show ignorance in the first place.

    Unless you consider yourself "stupid" you are not being honest in what you really meant about "stupid Americans".
    When one says "Americans are being stupid," of course one does not mean all Americans are stupid. It means that the average American's sentiment seems to be increasingly about questioning the refugees when any objective assessment would show that the chance of some crazy terrorist sneaking in as one, at least into the US, is pretty remote.

    And yes, as an American on the correct side of this argument, both objectively and morally, I am well within my right to point fingers at my fellow citizens and admonish them for adopting xenophobic attitudes. As it is well within the rights of my fellow citizens to do the same if I were to similarly espouse factually incorrect views.

    And who's playing the race card again? I never brought up anyone's ethnicity, did I? And I am sure you picked India at random out of the 192+ countries at your disposal, right? If so, my bad.

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    • #47
      Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
      When one says "Americans are being stupid," of course one does not mean all Americans are stupid. It means that the average American's sentiment seems to be increasingly about questioning the refugees when any objective assessment would show that the chance of some crazy terrorist sneaking in as one, at least into the US, is pretty remote.

      And yes, as an American on the correct side of this argument, both objectively and morally, I am well within my right to point fingers at my fellow citizens and admonish them for adopting xenophobic attitudes. As it is well within the rights of my fellow citizens to do the same if I were to similarly espouse factually incorrect views.

      And who's playing the race card again? I never brought up anyone's ethnicity, did I? And I am sure you picked India at random out of the 192+ countries at your disposal, right? If so, my bad.
      You made a blanket statement about Americans. You could have said "some Americans."

      I brought up the point that blanket statements in general are ignorant and to further drive home the ignorance point to you specifically I picked a point you would understand more than most. It was an ignorant statement. That was exactly the point.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by mofo View Post
        Right. Had he lived in Germany for 5 years, he would have a different understanding of the issue. Wording aside, you were reading my comment with your opinion already made (i.e. just saying “no”) instead of asking for clarification.

        Plus, my wording is pretty fucking good considering English is my 3rd language.
        I can speak 3 languages so what is your point?... I gave you a straight enough answer... now if you would of ask "how so" or why I disagree then I would of gave you a more a clarification on why I said no...also their was nothing to clarify in your statement. You said Germany and then you changed it to western I.E. the US
        So to me that was contradicting.

        But anyways I can not give an opinion on Muslim men being more open because I do not live there, but I can tell you for a fact that muslims in Germany either Men or Woman want to be with the same religion...@ least 90 percent of them

        Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
          You made a blanket statement about Americans. You could have said "some Americans."

          I brought up the point that blanket statements in general are ignorant and to further drive home the ignorance point to you specifically I picked a point you would understand more than most. It was an ignorant statement. That was exactly the point.
          Nah, not buying it. When one says Americans are stupid, it's basic English to infer that we are talking about the general sentiment or the average, not every single one. BS about "ignorant statement." There is nothing ignorant about what I said.

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          • #50
            All kinds of talk of labeling false fears, false racism, ignorance, statistics and irrelevant problems. Yet I'm the ignorant one for proposing a solution that isn't politically correct enough. Ha! Carry on I'm done with this.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
              Nah, not buying it. When one says Americans are stupid, it's basic English to infer that we are talking about the general sentiment or the average, not every single one. BS about "ignorant statement." There is nothing ignorant about what I said.
              Yea and I'm not buying it either.

              When you said Americans are stupid you were talking about a specific group of Americans. You were talking about whites from some shit hole like Alabama. Now the funny thing here is that I agree in a sense. Your probably not going to find a large group of rocket scientist from rural Alabama. BUT you definitely were not including yourself and you definitely were standing back and pointing your finger. Hidden racism if you will.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
                All kinds of talk of labeling false fears, false racism, ignorance, statistics and irrelevant problems. Yet I'm the ignorant one for proposing a solution that isn't politically correct enough. Ha! Carry on I'm done with this.
                Love ya bro but your solution was dumb as fuck and it goes directly against the first amendment. If your willing to throw amendments out the window you are willing to throw the country out the window and piss on the foundation of which this country was made.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                  Yea and I'm not buying it either.

                  When you said Americans are stupid you were talking about a specific group of Americans. You were talking about whites from some shit hole like Alabama. Now the funny thing here is that I agree in a sense. Your probably not going to find a large group of rocket scientist from rural Alabama. BUT you definitely were not including yourself and you definitely were standing back and pointing your finger. Hidden racism if you will.
                  Nope. You couldn't be more wrong. Xenophobia crosses many demographics. It is more about ignorance rather than social status, and the upper middle class can be just as ignorant. Yes, I an not including MYSELF (as an individual) because I know better. But I have heard these views even among the "rocket scientists" that I know. There are far fewer because their exposure to a wider worldview is in general greater. So?

                  You are calling me a racist now? LOL.. I think I am done with this convo. Whitesplaining at its best.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                    Nope. You couldn't be more wrong. Xenophobia crosses many demographics. It is more about ignorance rather than social status, and the upper middle class can be just as ignorant. Yes, I an not including MYSELF (as an individual) because I know better. But I have heard these views even among the "rocket scientists" that I know. There are far fewer because their exposure to a wider worldview is in general greater. So?

                    You are calling me a racist now? LOL.. I think I am done with this convo. Whitesplaining at its best.
                    I'm no more calling you a racist then you were trying to paint me as one..

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
                      Precisely. It is not PC but it would make for a better future and I don't make policy decisions so you all don't need to worry about my little opinion.
                      I like this guy!!:D

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by lipripper View Post
                        I like this guy!!:D
                        How can you like his viewpoint and also give a flying fuck about the amendments you claim to hold so dear? They aren't compatible you dumb white southern moron.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                          How can you like his viewpoint and also give a flying fuck about the amendments you claim to hold so dear? They aren't compatible you dumb white southern moron.
                          it was about that statement..not the whole conversation...:rofl:

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by lipripper View Post
                            it was about that statement..not the whole conversation...:rofl:
                            Fuck off racist

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                              I'm no more calling you a racist then you were trying to paint me as one..
                              "Hidden racism if you will."

                              Your words, not mine.

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                                "Hidden racism if you will."

                                Your words, not mine.
                                I got some racism for ya.

                                You brought up whites with guns and how you know who to fear...

                                Blacks shoot and kill more people in the country every single day than any other group. The statistics aren't even close. It's like 10 to 1.

                                Yet you skipped over blacks and went to the evil whites. Racist!

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