18 school shootings this year

[Bouncer]

What do you guys think of all these kids in schools doing these protests. Saying stuff like they don't feel safe anymore etc.

Do you think if they feel that way they should just get over it or do you think they have a right to feel safe going to school?

I think we need to protect schools better. We protect adults at concerts, events, sporting venues etc.. yet any nut can walk right into a school with a gun, a knife, a bat, or whatever else.

[ROCKETS REVENGE]

I'm getting tired and can't read all this but the 18 mass shootings is all fabricated BS. a accidental discharge went off they counted that. it should be 18 gun incidents not mass shootings damn fake news
no one has talked about the hundreds that have died from smoking and drunk drivers sure is funny no cars alcohol or cigs are getting banned. oh wait they tried that it didn't work did it? same with banning guns it won't work. even the law abiding pastor from the church aint giving up his gun either is the senator ect ect

[lipripper]

What do you guys think of all these kids in schools doing these protests. Saying stuff like they don't feel safe anymore etc.

Do you think if they feel that way they should just get over it or do you think they have a right to feel safe going to school?

I think they are emotional over a tragic event.. nothing Wong with that..in 6 months they will be back to eating tide pods posting it on YouTube and arguing about which bathroom they are supposed to be using

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[lipripper]

I'm getting tired and can't read all this but the 18 mass shootings is all fabricated BS. a accidental discharge went off they counted that. it should be 18 gun incidents not mass shootings damn fake news
no one has talked about the hundreds that have died from smoking and drunk drivers sure is funny no cars alcohol or cigs are getting banned. oh wait they tried that it didn't work did it? same with banning guns it won't work. even the law abiding pastor from the church aint giving up his gun either is the senator ect ect

This is what you see when people think with their emotions...not reason.. the examples you give are hitting them square in the nose but they refuse to accept that as fact....because they are overwhelmed with their emotions...

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[Keiser]

Arming teachers is a really dumb idea. Most teachers don't have it in them to handle or shoot a gun. They are kind, peaceful souls like my wife who have no business with a gun in their hand.

I think the solution is just to have armed security at all schools and metal detectors. Going to school each day will be like going thru the fucking airport. I know that sucks and it's expensive, but I don't see other solutions. They will have to raise taxes to make this happen then you'll have the whole debate that the armed security is getting paid more than the teachers who are already underpaid. It's a mess.

[Bouncer]

Arming teachers is a really dumb idea. Most teachers don't have it in them to handle or shoot a gun. They are kind, peaceful souls like my wife who have no business with a gun in their hand.

I think the solution is just to have armed security at all schools and metal detectors. Going to school each day will be like going thru the fucking airport. I know that sucks and it's expensive, but I don't see other solutions. They will have to raise taxes to make this happen then you'll have the whole debate that the armed security is getting paid more than the teachers who are already underpaid. It's a mess.

disagree 100%. nobody is saying ALL teachers. we are talking about certain teachers in each school willing to do it and willing to go through a little training. someone like that gym teacher who saved a bunch of kids lives, he would be the perfect sort of teacher for this. these select teachers would conceal carry so the students don't know which teachers are armed.

when you have specific armed security all the students know exactly who it is including a potential student shooter. that potential shooter could either avoid or target that security guard to carry out his plan. if the students don't know which teachers are armed that wouldn't be possible.

nobody is suggesting we arm 57 year old Margaret the cooking class teacher. lol

by the way, this school did have an armed police officer. the shooter went to a building the officer wasn't in...

[Chadd77]

Arming teachers is a really dumb idea. Most teachers don't have it in them to handle or shoot a gun. They are kind, peaceful souls like my wife who have no business with a gun in their hand.

wow if that's not stereotyping not sure what is. lol I have 2 good fiends that are teachers, gun owners, and absolutely know how to handle their firearm. I would trust them protecting my own children. I don't think we should arm every teacher but why not pinpoint those that could and get them any training needed to keep the kids safe. I think having a security guard is great but having concealed carry on teachers that are strategically placed throughout the building is even better. I know for a fact my 2 friends would volunteer their service in a heartbeat.

[Keiser]

wow if that's not stereotyping not sure what is. lol I have 2 good fiends that are teachers, gun owners, and absolutely know how to handle their firearm. I would trust them protecting my own children. I don't think we should arm every teacher but why not pinpoint those that could and get them any training needed to keep the kids safe. I think having a security guard is great but having concealed carry on teachers that are strategically placed throughout the building is even better. I know for a fact my 2 friends would volunteer their service in a heartbeat.

You don't get it. Saying you know two "tough" teachers who are gun owners so this would work is like saying I have a few "black friends" therefore I'm not racist. Sure, those specific teachers you speak of could partner up and be part of the armed security I'm speaking of. That's fine and they could get extra pay for it.

Think about this, you're familiar with the south. Most places on the east coast and west coast where the majority of the population is don't have these types of teachers who are familiar or comfortable with guns. It wouldn't work in the majority of schools.

[Keiser]

disagree 100%. nobody is saying ALL teachers. we are talking about certain teachers in each school willing to do it and willing to go through a little training. someone like that gym teacher who saved a bunch of kids lives, he would be the perfect sort of teacher for this. these select teachers would conceal carry so the students don't know which teachers are armed.

That's fine, but the majority of schools don't have these types of teachers as a whole. For the schools that do, especially in the south these specific hero type teachers you speak of could partner up with the armed security I speak of and be part of that as an option and even get additional pay and benefits as part of the tax increase I speak of.

[Bouncer]

That's fine, but the majority of schools don't have these types of teachers as a whole. For the schools that do, especially in the south these specific hero type teachers you speak of could partner up with the armed security I speak of and be part of that as an option and even get additional pay and benefits as part of the tax increase I speak of.

"as a whole". Nobody said schools has them as a whole. But I'm positive most schools have a few teachers willing and able.

[Keiser]

"as a whole". Nobody said schools has them as a whole. But I'm positive most schools have a few teachers willing and able.

I would say it's the minority of school that have them. Not even 50% of schools. Think about how many schools there are in this country, especially in the dense population centers.

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One problem with the south, and I can speak on this because I was born and raised in the south so my friends and family and formerly myself are included in this assessment:

In general, they think only in terms of their own geographic location and how things work there and try to apply it to the rest of the US and the rest of the world. Do you really fucking think all the millions of schools in New York City, Philly, Connecticut, Jersey, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, Portland have these billy bad ass teachers walking around who you can train and trust to carry a gun to work every day? These are the population centers. This is where the majority of the people in this country live.

Come on man.

[Chadd77]

You don't get it. Saying you know two "tough" teachers who are gun owners so this would work is like saying I have a few "black friends" therefore I'm not racist. Sure, those specific teachers you speak of could partner up and be part of the armed security I'm speaking of. That's fine and they could get extra pay for it.

Think about this, you're familiar with the south. Most places on the east coast and west coast where the majority of the population is don't have these types of teachers who are familiar or comfortable with guns. It wouldn't work in the majority of schools.

Not true at all. Out of my close friends, 2 of them are teachers. I have had this discussion with them and they are all in favor of it. They know many other teachers in their school district (they teach at different schools) that would be all for this. So maybe your wife shouldn't handle a gun but I bet their are many teacher that would want this responsibility.

[Keiser]

Not true at all. Out of my close friends, 2 of them are teachers. I have had this discussion with them and they are all in favor of it. They know many other teachers in their school district (they teach at different schools) that would be all for this. So maybe your wife shouldn't handle a gun but I bet their are many teacher that would want this responsibility.

You just proved my point. You're thinking too narrowly. Your thought process is only around your school district in your local vicinity. Expand your mind a little bit, it's a big world out there. Travel more, that helps.

Bouncer, you know I'm right about this one... You've experienced both the south, the east, and now the west.

[Chadd77]

Do you really fucking think all the millions of schools in New York City, Philly, Connecticut, Jersey, Chicago, Seattle, San Francisco, Portland have these billy bad ass teachers walking around who you can train and trust to carry a gun to work every day? These are the population centers. This is where the majority of the people in this country live.

Come on man.

Who are these billy bad ass teachers you're referring about?? I thought teachers are kind, peaceful souls like your wife??

[chuckz28]

Keiser the solution in some areas might be different than others. In your more blue areas where they don't like guns and don't care about higher taxes they might be willing to have schools with more armed guards. Other areas might find it more useful to arm some teachers. There doesn't need to be a national single solution just a national effort.