18 school shootings this year

[Keiser]

Bouncer, some crazy people on the right are saying that these kids in the shooting who are speaking out were paid actors and that it was a false flag. This is dangerous. I think that's what Scrum's getting at.

[Bouncer]

Did you see the interview with her? She said she wouldn't want a gun in that situation. You are not understanding the mentality of teachers like that. What makes you so sure they could kill?

Now you're a fucking expert in bulletproof vests? I've shot guns since I was 7 years old and I've never seen nor worn a bulletproof vest in my entire fucking life so you're right I know absolutely nothing about them.

What the fuck does firearm experience and bulletproof vests have in common? You're going back to internet knowledge here and not real life experience again.

it's very common knowledge amongst anyone that has been around or knows about firearms. a standard police vest is no contest against a high velocity rifle round.

in the same way that anyone involved in the bodybuilding/fitness community knows drugs are a massive part of bodybuilding. people that have no idea of bodybuilding will say something naive like "are those guys on steroids?" That's how you come across to me.

I believe you inherited your grandfathers guns. I believe he may have exposed you to firearms a few times. That's about the extent of it. You aren't pro gun and you understand almost nothing about firearms. Even a gun noob like myself can see it.

[Keiser]

Bouncer, I fully understand that you, rip, myself, Chadd if we were in that classroom and we were armed and that kid busted into our classroom with a gun, we'd have no problem killing him.

What makes you think a teacher, who dedicated their lives to kids, who spends every day with them, who PROBABLY EVEN TAUGHT THE KID WITH THE GUN and knows him, could just stand up, pull out a gun and kill him? Do they want to live with guilt of killing a child even though he was trying to kill them? Not everyone has the same mentality. This is why people choose certain professions, based on their mentality.

[Bouncer]

Bouncer, some crazy people on the right are saying that these kids in the shooting who are speaking out were paid actors and that it was a false flag. This is dangerous. I think that's what Scrum's getting at.

Yes that is dangerous and I am totally against that.

See that is the difference between me and scrum. I can see faults on both sides.

He cannot admit and will not admit any possible liberal media bias trying to push an agenda.

[Keiser]

it's very common knowledge amongst anyone that has been around or knows about firearms. a standard police vest is no contest against a high velocity rifle round.

Bouncer, no it isn't. Being around firearms and being around bulletproof vests are not the same god damned thing. How do you personally have this knowledge? Have you been around police officers or did you read it on the internet? Be honest.

I'm not in the police force. I don't know shit about what police officers do or what type of bullet can penetrate how deeply into a bulletproof vest or kevlar vest. I wasn't in the military either.

You read all this on the internet.

[Bouncer]

Bouncer, I fully understand that you, rip, myself, Chadd if we were in that classroom and we were armed and that kid busted into our classroom with a gun, we'd have no problem killing him.

What makes you think a teacher, who dedicated their lives to kids, who spends every day with them, who PROBABLY EVEN TAUGHT THE KID WITH THE GUN and knows him, could just stand up, pull out a gun and kill him? Do they want to live with guilt of killing a child even though he was trying to kill them? Not everyone has the same mentality. This is why people choose certain professions, based on their mentality.

i can understand what your saying.

I guess what I'm saying is that if forced to choose and if forced to be in that situation what would she do? Would she rather have the shooter kill her and the kids in the class or would she rather have a chance at stopping the threat.

I know guns aren't for everyone and I'm not suggesting every teacher have one.

[Scrumhalf]

oh CNN explained it!? well alright then! that's like a trump supporter saying "trump explained it right there"!

you can't see past your bias.

I think you are being ridiculous. We are talking about CNN here, not Mother Jones. It's about as centrist as it gets. If you view CNN as some kind of leftist organization, then you truly have veered into cuckoo island territory. I get that you have shifted hard right with your gun stuff lately but seriously, get a grip.

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[Bouncer]

Bouncer, no it isn't. Being around firearms and being around bulletproof vests are not the same god damned thing. How do you personally have this knowledge? Have you been around police officers or did you read it on the internet? Be honest.

I'm not in the police force. I don't know shit about what police officers do or what type of bullet can penetrate how deeply into a bulletproof vest or kevlar vest. I wasn't in the military either.

You read all this on the internet.

In the same way that we know pro's use 10 grams of this or that. Do you have personal experience with that? How could you possibly know!? It's because we are part of the community. It gets talked about. It's common knowledge.

[Keiser]

In the same way that we know pro's use 10 grams of this or that. Do you have personal experience with that? How could you possibly know!? It's because we are part of the community. It gets talked about. It's common knowledge.

So, you read it on the internet.

[lipripper]

In Obama's entire 8 years he never tried to take your guns away. Trump just took your bump stocks and your boy Reagan banned open carry in California. :rofl:

He just wasn't successfully backed to do it..don't be foolish. He would of in a new york min. If you honestly don't believe that your not near as smart as you think you are..sometimes you sound so stupid trying to talk bad about Trump..your desperation shows..lol

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[Bouncer]

I think you are being ridiculous. We are talking about CNN here, not Mother Jones. It's about as centrist as it gets. If you view CNN as some kind of leftist organization, then you truly have veered into cuckoo island territory. I get that you have shifted hard right with your gun stuff lately but seriously, get a grip.

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CNN is centrist lmao.

only an extreme leftist would view CNN as centrist.

I am centrist. i think trump can be and absolute moron more times then not. but i can also take a look at Hillary and see a political snake.

fuck the hard right and fuck the hard left.

you cannot and will not ever attack both sides. you are so biased you cannot see it.

[Keiser]

i can understand what your saying.

I guess what I'm saying is that if forced to choose and if forced to be in that situation what would she do? Would she rather have the shooter kill her and the kids in the class or would she rather have a chance at stopping the threat.

I know guns aren't for everyone and I'm not suggesting every teacher have one.

BTW, Trump clarified himself this morning and I agree with this. And it's what I said yesterday. If trained teachers want to conceal carry, let them. But, let's not arm the 60 year old kind grandmother type teacher and ask her to kill a former student.

[Scrumhalf]

CNN is centrist lmao.

only an extreme leftist would view CNN as centrist.

I am centrist. i think trump can be and absolute moron more times then not. but i can also take a look at Hillary and see a political snake.

fuck the hard right and fuck the hard left.

you cannot and will not ever attack both sides. you are so biased you cannot see it.

Just shows how conservative you have got in the last year or so if you think CNN is anything but carefully straddling the fence between left and right.

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[Bouncer]

So, you read it on the internet.

the information can come from a book, a video, the Internet, the news paper, talking to people in the community etc..

that's the point. even as a gun noob i can tell you are not part of the gun community.

i guarantee, chad, turbo, ripper, rocket etc.. all know a 556 round will easily penetrate a standard vest.

[Turbo3000]

I think you are being ridiculous. We are talking about CNN here, not Mother Jones. It's about as centrist as it gets. If you view CNN as some kind of leftist organization, then you truly have veered into cuckoo island territory. I get that you have shifted hard right with your gun stuff lately but seriously, get a grip.

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Lmao. CNN and Fox are the worst. They are the same, they just cater to different audiences.

CNN central. Holy shit.