Good read on the 2nd...

[lipripper]

Maybe not on the federal level but on the state level yes. California and New York I can definitely see it happening.

Those people in Deerfield are going to be fined $1000 per day. What happens when they don't pay? This is very serious and completely unconstitutional. They bought something 100% legally and now they must turn it in without compensation or else..

He will find a way to counter or not accept the fact it's happening...like I said...watch...the shootouts are comming.. it may not be today or tomorrow..but it's comming...one here...one there..then it will become more frequent...then this will be the....reason.... To ban more guns...not school shootings...if your too blind to see this...just get some popcorn n stand by...it's comming.

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[lipripper]

Bouncer and Lip,

Was banning the sale of bump stocks and fully automatic weapons death by 30k cuts? Or is this something you're OK with? What about grenades. Should we be able to go to the gun store and buy a grenade? It sounds like you guys are OK with drawing the line somewhere. True or am I off base here?

This will be my last response to you...grenades...your a fucking tool..grow the hell up and get real about stuff. Become educated about a subject before you want to counter argue for the sake of it.you argue debate just for the hell of it. If you have the believes you say you do. That's great your entitled to them. Enjoy them. Your response to Chuck n Katrina...it's a disaster...yeah..the EXACT TIME PEOPLE NEED TO DEFEND THEIR PROPERTY... You really are an idiot.

That's all .

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[Bouncer]

the EXACT TIME PEOPLE NEED TO DEFEND THEIR PROPERTY...

yup. every single time the rule of law breaks down like after a major storm like Katrina or something like the LA riots after the Rodney King beating it's been proven time and time again the police will not be there for you. they fall back when shit hits the fan. during that period where LE falls back you have nobody to depend on but yourself, nobody will be there to protect you. when the police enter in numbers 3 days later your house has been looted, burnt down, and you and your family are dead. this is not a situation I will ever allow. putting yourself in a situation where your only defense is your fist or a kitchen knife against mobs with knives, guns, moltov cocktails etc.. fuck that. in a situation like that you are either a predator or prey. people are gullible as shit if they think the rule of law doesn't break down in the US. it has happened numerous times in the last 30 years.

[lipripper]

this man says it all!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo_X53dNTS8

[Keiser]

This will be my last response to you...grenades...your a fucking tool..grow the hell up and get real about stuff. Become educated about a subject before you want to counter argue for the sake of it.you argue debate just for the hell of it. If you have the believes you say you do. That's great your entitled to them. Enjoy them. Your response to Chuck n Katrina...it's a disaster...yeah..the EXACT TIME PEOPLE NEED TO DEFEND THEIR PROPERTY... You really are an idiot.

That's all .

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Rip, I’m asking YOU where do you draw the line?

And you didn’t answer the question. Was banning bump stocks and fully auto death by 30k cuts? I want you to tell me where you exactly draw the line. And why can’t I DEFEND MY PROPERTY with a grenade?

[Bouncer]

Rip, I’m asking YOU where do you draw the line?

And you didn’t answer the question. Was banning bump stocks and fully auto death by 30k cuts? I want you to tell me where you exactly draw the line. And why can’t I DEFEND MY PROPERTY with a grenade?

The questions you ask and the statements you make expose exactly who you are.

"I don't have a problem with Jews, but I can understand Hitler's reasoning."

That's you in a nutshell when it comes to firearms. You are 100% anti gun full on extreme left pretending to be otherwise. It's quite comical really. Go sip on your frapchapapachino with a cancer warning label that you "fully support" lol...

[Keiser]

The questions you ask and the statements you make expose exactly who you are.

"I don't have a problem with Jews, but I can understand Hitler's reasoning."

That's you in a nutshell when it comes to firearms. You are 100% anti gun full on extreme left pretending to be otherwise. It's quite comical really. Go sip on your frapchapapachino with a cancer warning label that you "fully support" lol...

You guys are so completely irrational, and honestly lack intelligence from what I can see. All I've done is ask you a simple question which you haven't been able to answer. Where do you draw the line? Your reading comprehension skills are so poor that you actually contrive some artificial view about where I personally draw the line, which neither of you have asked nor have I stated. My grenade example is outstanding because you both know that isn't death by 30k cuts and neither was banning fully auto and bump stocks. You both have neglected that.

I personally draw the line at fully auto and I'm OK with the bump stock ban. I don't support anything further than that.

Bouncer, I'm sarcastic and joke a lot, but I"m being serious here. I've kinda known you since like 2003 and I honestly used to think you were intelligent. I no longer believe this. You have no education and your reading comprehension is abysmal. You should seriously work on it.

[Bouncer]

You don't kind of know me at all you creepy fuck.

You give yourself far too much credit in terms of intelligence. You are actually very naive and you definitely have a hard time thinking on any kind of deep level. You argue just to argue and you have to be one of the most unlikable people I've come across on these forums.

[Keiser]

You don't kind of know me at all you creepy fuck.

So you still won't answer the question I've been asking over and over in this thread. Where do you draw the line? You can't answer it because we have record of you saying you support the bump stock ban, and then we have you trying to make the argument of "death by 30k cuts".

I've fucking owned you and everyone here can see it. Dodging questions since you've dug yourself such a deep hole and trying to change the subject by talking about frappachinos. Get the fuck out of here.

[Bouncer]

Keiser you own nobody. You are weirdo with personal problems. I've explained my line in the sand in about 300 threads. You want to go around in circles and give yourself credit for intelligence you don't have.

I'm a noob to guns yet I've had to give you an education over and over again on the subject.

[Keiser]

You are 100% anti gun full on extreme left pretending to be otherwise. It's quite comical really. Go sip on your frapchapapachino with a cancer warning label that you "fully support" lol...

This is what happens when someone gets backed into a corner in a debate. They go personal. Like a wounded animal.

You are the definition of what my people from the south call a "liberal". Someone who doesn't have a job, has never had a job, doesn't want a job, is on welfare and mooches off the government. You told us all about your free healthcare you got when you cracked your head open at Costco.

I hope you take this constructively, but if you spent as much time researching what it would take to start a business or have a successful career as you do on guns and bodybuilding, you'd be a millionaire by now, very successful. You're the type of welfare fucker that Rip, Chadd, and Turbo despise. Our tax money supports you. You're worse or just as bad as any illegal immigrant mooching off the system, yet you act like some conservative gun nut and call me a liberal. You're the most liberal fucker here, by definition. You basically live off the government (or whatever female happens to be supporting you at the time).

[Keiser]

I've explained my line in the sand in about 300 threads. You want to go around in circles and give yourself credit for intelligence you don't have.

Where do you draw the line on guns? You haven't said it, simply tell us in this thread. And if it's fully auto, then explain why that isn't death by 30k cuts and banning high capacity magazines is.

[Bouncer]

Absolutely wrong. I take nothing from the government. That was 1 year after I moved out here. I pay for all my shit now.

But I'm glad you've shown who you really are you weird obsessive creep.

I suggest everyone go back and read kiesers very first post on this forum. LOL

Meltdown

[Bouncer]

Where do you draw the line on guns? You haven't said it, simply tell us in this thread. And if it's fully auto, then explain why that isn't death by 30k cuts and banning high capacity magazines is.

We've had this exact conversation in literally dozeny of threads. I can't be any more clear on my stance. If you missed my stance in the dozens of threads I've discussed it then that's too bad.

[Keiser]

Absolutely wrong. I take nothing from the government. That was 1 year after I moved out here. I pay for all my shit now.

Where is your income coming from? You aren't working. I'm the only one here who stands up to you and calls you out on your bullshit. It's always been this way. And it always happens after you go personal after an innocent debate on a topic. Just like this one. You've done it to Scrum too and he's too nice/kind to call you out on it.