London Overtakes NYC Murder Rate For First Time In History

[chuckz28]

We should make it illegal to hurt other people... Oh wait.

[lipripper]

This isn’t about guns. It’s about weapons. You asked why the mirder rate is higher in London than New York even though they both have incredibly strict gun laws. I gave you an answer and backed it up with data. New York ramped up their police force and got aggressive and took weapons off the street. Yet you didn’t read or comprehend any of it because we’ve lost you. You’ve become a gun nut and are no longer a man of reason or science like you used to be. You just repeat talking points like a parrot from a gun board and aren’t interested in looking at data or hearing the other side especially in this case when we are talking about knives. The article I posted talks about New York City police officer stopping and frisking people and taking their knives/weapons off the street.

This also has nothing to do with having a gun/weapon at home to protect yourself or a concealed carry permit. This is about stopping and frisking thugs/gang bangers and removing their weapons from the street. Guess what it is a whole lot easier to kill someone with a “weapon” therefore removing weapons from the STREETS reduced the murder rate, duh.

London should follow what NYPD is doing since it’s working...

You should do a bit more research...stop n frisk was killed in NYC about 2 years ago when the new dipshit mayor took charge. He said it was to aggressive and targeted........ people of color.... Cops in NYC. Can't do it any more...rates are climbing back up. It was...repete...was doing well .

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[Chadd77]

Yep, and Trump mentioned bringing back the "stop and frisk" and all the liberals started whining. I'm all for it. Target the high crime areas and get the illegal guns off the streets. How else do you do it? Isn't that what both parties want?

[lipripper]

Yep, and Trump mentioned bringing back the "stop and frisk" and all the liberals started whining. I'm all for it. Target the high crime areas and get the illegal guns off the streets. How else do you do it? Isn't that what both parties want?

Funny..they bitch they want crime cleaned up...program does just that...then same people bitch they are being profiled...guess what....ya can't have it both ways...lolo

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[Turbo3000]

Stop and Frisk is fucking ridiculous. I can’t believe any freedom loving American would even suggest such an awful program.

[Chadd77]

Stop and Frisk is fucking ridiculous. I can’t believe any freedom loving American would even suggest such an awful program.

Why? If I lived in an area that had extremely high murder rate, a lot having to due to gang and drug activity, I wouldn't care. Knowing that this would clean up my town, I would be all for it. Why would you be against something like this?

[Bouncer]

Stop and Frisk is fucking ridiculous. I can’t believe any freedom loving American would even suggest such an awful program.

Depends on situation. If you are a cop in an area where a bunch of peeps are wearing matching colors and throwing up gang signs and shit I think it's a good bet they probably got some Illegal shit on them.

If it's simply some Mexican guys gardening or some shit then no it wouldn't be appropriate as that would to racial profiling.

[Turbo3000]

Why? If I lived in an area that had extremely high murder rate, a lot having to due to gang and drug activity, I wouldn't care. Knowing that this would clean up my town, I would be all for it. Why would you be against something like this?

Because it goes against our entire judicial system. Like it or not, stop and frisk is unconstitutional.

I don’t agree with policy that borders on police state tactics.

[Chadd77]

Because it goes against our entire judicial system. Like it or not, stop and frisk is unconstitutional.

I don’t agree with policy that borders on police state tactics.

So what's your idea then for getting the illegal guns away from gang members and other criminals?

[Bouncer]

So what's your idea then for getting the illegal guns away from gang members and other criminals?

turbo only complains he doesn't do solutions. :D

[Turbo3000]

So what's your idea then for getting the illegal guns away from gang members and other criminals?

Don’t know.

I didn’t go into law enforcement, so not something I ponder.

I’m just not into unconstitutional stops.

[Turbo3000]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.80b4aefa6c6c

But the ACLU accounting also points to other data that undermine the rationale for stop-and-frisk: It yielded few weapons when officials justified the policy as a way to reduce shootings and recover guns; in more than 5 million stops, police recovered a gun less than 0.02 percent of the time. And as the NYPD ramped up the number of stops, shootings and murders in the city did not appear to correspondingly decline:


Now that police tactics in minority communities are under national scrutiny once again, this data reaffirms that some of the tactics that antagonize residents may not be all that valuable anyway.

[Keiser]

If they implemented stop and frisk on the south side of Chicago, guarantee the murder rate would plummet. I’m all for it.

[FrankTheTank55]

You're cool with stop and frisk? You cool with them coming in your house and looking for steroids just because you are bigger then the average person?

[Turbo3000]

You're cool with stop and frisk? You cool with them coming in your house and looking for steroids just because you are bigger then the average person?

Exactly.

Not sure they understand the implications of stop and frisk.