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  • #76
    Originally posted by AvidFisherman View Post
    Haha. The American dream is alive for very few people. You are pretty much destined to remain in the socioeconomic class of your parents. If you were born rich you are going to die rich. If you were born poor you will die poor. Social mobility up or down the economic strata is rare.

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    False. I suggest you read the book Millionaire Mind by Dr. Thomas Stanley. He has the most comprehensive interview of millionaires in the country. Over 1000 questionnaires sent. By far the vast majority are self-made. Usually when someone gets money from their parents and they don't know how to use it they blow it and end up broke just like people that win the lottery. I believe it was over 80% are self-made usually small business owners. I'll have to open the book and find the exact number but it was staggering.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
      See, you have been taken to the cleaners by the rich guys. Yes, you may have a few more dollars in your pocket but the top bracket has far more as a percentage. They are throwing you a biscuit to distract you while they are robbing you blind.

      And real wages have stagnated. Corporations loved their tax cut but have given all the money to shareholders, not to workers.

      This stuff is all objectively true. I'm not making it up. The tax cut massively favored the 1% and corporations and screwed the lower income folks.

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      Maybe you didn't get what I said so I'll say it clearly again. I do not care what other people make, it is their business. I don't care if someone's a f****** trillionaire and I'm not. Why do you care what other people make?

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      • #78
        Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
        False. I suggest you read the book Millionaire Mind by Dr. Thomas Stanley. He has the most comprehensive interview of millionaires in the country. Over 1000 questionnaires sent. By far the vast majority are self-made. Usually when someone gets money from their parents and they don't know how to use it they blow it and end up broke just like people that win the lottery. I believe it was over 80% are self-made usually small business owners. I'll have to open the book and find the exact number but it was staggering.

        Tapatalk sucks balls
        https://www.economist.com/graphic-de...-their-country

        https://www.brookings.edu/blog/socia...e-should-know/

        These are articles based on data published in peer-reviewed journals. There are hundreds, maybe thousands of other peer-reviewed journal articles that state the same sentiment.

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        • #79
          I don't care what others make. The problem I have is when a tax cut is made to disproportionally benefit the rich people (who coincidentally have all the power, surprise surprise) instead of the poor ones.

          Full disclosure. I'm in the 1% and I think I'm getting away with murder in terms of taxes I can pay or afford to pay.

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          • #80
            Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
            Maybe you didn't get what I said so I'll say it clearly again. I do not care what other people make, it is their business. I don't care if someone's a f****** trillionaire and I'm not. Why do you care what other people make?
            Its compassion. I'm middle-class. Scrum is either middle-class or upper-class. No matter how the economy turns we will very likely still have gainful employment. Its caring for disadvantaged people that makes economically secure individuals care about the overall good of our country.

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            • #81
              Originally posted by AvidFisherman View Post

              Sixty-seven percent of high-net-worth Americans are self-made millionaires, according to the survey. Only 8 percent inherited their wealth. One third of the millionaires surveyed were women and half of them made their own fortunes.

              The report by Chicago-based BMO bank was based on a survey of 482 American adults with at least $1 million in investable assets

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              • #82
                It's like in the Army, you are only as strong as your weakest soldier. The Trumpians don't care if we are week as a whole. They only care about themselves being rich.

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by AvidFisherman View Post
                  Its compassion. I'm middle-class. Scrum is either middle-class or upper-class. No matter how the economy turns we will very likely still have gainful employment. Its caring for disadvantaged people that makes economically secure individuals care about the overall good of our country.

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                  Then donate to charity. Stop trying to take other people's money.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
                    Sixty-seven percent of high-net-worth Americans are self-made millionaires, according to the survey. Only 8 percent inherited their wealth. One third of the millionaires surveyed were women and half of them made their own fortunes.

                    The report by Chicago-based BMO bank was based on a survey of 482 American adults with at least $1 million in investable assets
                    I don't care about what the BMO bank says. Unless it was peer-reviewed data published in an academic journal I do not believe it.

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                    • #85
                      Does it bother you that I'm going to be a millionaire before I retire? Am I not paying enough f****** money for you? Suck a dick.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
                        Then donate to charity. Stop trying to take other people's money.
                        I'm not. Trump and his goons are.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
                          Does it bother you that I'm going to be a millionaire before I retire? Am I not paying enough f****** money for you? Suck a dick.
                          None of your money is coming to me. I pay a good deal of taxes. I'm sure I am putting in more than I get back.

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                          • #88
                            And it's not hard to invest enough money when we are young to be a millionaire when we are old. I started investing in a 403B and a 457 when I was in my late 20s.

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                            • #89
                              Originally posted by AvidFisherman View Post
                              I'm not. Trump and his goons are.

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                              This is EXACTLY what you're trying to do. There's only one side trying to make people pay more taxes. Keep your hands out of other people's wallets.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by AvidFisherman View Post
                                And it's not hard to invest enough money when we are young to be a millionaire when we are old. I started investing in a 403B and a 457 when I was in my late 20s.

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                                So what's the problem then? You live in a country that gives you the chance to become a millionaire. You just said it yourself.

                                So is the American dream dead or isn't it? Your talking out of both sides of your face you mother fucken communist turd! Lol

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