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  • Homeless epidemic in AMERICA

    Discuss.


    My good friend who I went to HS and college with. He lives in San Francisco, right in the heart of it. THIS is everywhere and who's to blame?

    Themselves?
    The system?
    Parents?


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  • #2
    The causes are well understood. What is lacking is the will to act. Why? Greed. Callousness. Indifference.

    Read this:

    https://www.kqed.org/news/11001829/h...ve-got-answers

    TL; DR

    About a third due to job loss and/or eviction
    About 1/4 due to family issues/divorce, etc.
    About 15% due to substance abuse.

    Bottom line learning:

    1. Lack of affordable public housing/safety nets
    2. Terrible failure of healthcare system. THIS IS WHY WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE!!!!!!! I CAN'T SCREAM FROM THE ROOFTOPS LOUD ENOUGH!!

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    • #3
      Worth a read...


      Finland has found the answer to homelessness. It couldn’t be simpler.....give homes to homeless people.

      https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...eepers-britain

      "Sceptics will argue that giving homes to homeless people is a recipe for disaster. Aren’t we just subsidising addiction? Won’t we end up with huge bills when it all goes wrong? Don’t people need an incentive to get their lives back on track and engage in services?

      Actually, no. The evidence from Finland – as well as numerous other pilot schemes across the world – shows the opposite is true. When people are given homes, homelessness is radically reduced, engagement in support services goes up and recovery rates from addiction are comparable to a “treatment first” approach. Even more impressive is that there are overall savings for government, as people’s use of emergency health services and the criminal justice system is lessened."

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      • #4
        Yeah I been to San Fran probably a dozen times in the few years I been in cali. It's still an amazing city but the homelessness has absolutely increased in the few short years I been here.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
          Worth a read...


          Finland has found the answer to homelessness. It couldn’t be simpler.....give homes to homeless people.

          https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...eepers-britain

          "Sceptics will argue that giving homes to homeless people is a recipe for disaster. Aren’t we just subsidising addiction? Won’t we end up with huge bills when it all goes wrong? Don’t people need an incentive to get their lives back on track and engage in services?

          Actually, no. The evidence from Finland – as well as numerous other pilot schemes across the world – shows the opposite is true. When people are given homes, homelessness is radically reduced, engagement in support services goes up and recovery rates from addiction are comparable to a “treatment first” approach. Even more impressive is that there are overall savings for government, as people’s use of emergency health services and the criminal justice system is lessened."
          Reward them for getting treatment is the basic point right? I'm alright with that.

          They did something similar in Chicago where this restaurant only hired homeless people and gave them training and good pay well above minimum wage. The only requirement is that they take a drug test weekly and stay out of trouble. They had a 1 strike rule. I think the statistic was something like 70% succeeded. Not too bad. I'm all for something like that.

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          • #6
            One, get them off the streets and into housing. Two, give them treatment. #1 is futile without #2. Unfortunately, in this country, #2 is pathetic and we stubbornly refuse to learn. And #1 isn't anything to write home about either.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
              When people are given homes, homelessness is radically reduced

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              • #8
                Simple, isn't it? Why can't we learn?

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                • #9
                  My friends page after he posted those pics lol.

                  People get so political [emoji849]

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Scrumhalf View Post
                    The causes are well understood. What is lacking is the will to act. Why? Greed. Callousness. Indifference.

                    Read this:

                    https://www.kqed.org/news/11001829/h...ve-got-answers

                    TL; DR

                    About a third due to job loss and/or eviction
                    About 1/4 due to family issues/divorce, etc.
                    About 15% due to substance abuse.

                    Bottom line learning:

                    1. Lack of affordable public housing/safety nets
                    2. Terrible failure of healthcare system. THIS IS WHY WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE!!!!!!! I CAN'T SCREAM FROM THE ROOFTOPS LOUD ENOUGH!!
                    Doing so now and we WILL discuss. I'm curious to see your view and stance on this.


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                    • #11
                      Oh we WILL!

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                      • #12
                        Im in L.A. and it is pretty bad now.they are always asking for money on corners and freeway exits. I carry a case of water in the back seat. If its hot they get that from me.

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                        • #13
                          It’s America’s uncaring and unadvanced civilisation

                          It’s likke there’s money everywhere, but they don’t know how to spend it. In the UK we have social
                          housing

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mr I View Post
                            It’s America’s uncaring and unadvanced civilisation

                            It’s likke there’s money everywhere, but they don’t know how to spend it. In the UK we have social
                            housing
                            LoL @ a Brit on his once powerful now powerless nation speaking about the most powerful nation the world has ever seen and calling it "unadvanced". Classic. You became irrelevant when WW2 ended my friend. You don't even have fluoride in your water you gapped toothed idiot.

                            Better watch your mouth boy..



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