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Religion played a huge role in the uptick in South Korea as well. Over half of the cases are from a single cult
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Well... they are fucked....
Outbreak at Washington state nursing home...
For those that don't know. Old/sickly people do not have a good chance with this virus...
https://www.statnews.com/2020/02/29/...nursing-homes/Comment
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Well North Korea won’t have a problem they don’t let anyone inComment
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We had the first death over here a couple days ago. We had something like 25 cases and 15 recovered so far.Comment
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imagine being someone in their 60's who has a few health issues? holy fuck i'd be shitting myself.Originally posted by redback View PostComment
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South Korean Government Seeks Murder Charges Against Church Leaders Who went to Wuhan and knowingly spread the disease..
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN20P1LOComment
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Two in ATL today..family members...one was in Italy 2 weeks ago...here we go...mComment
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If it gets bad I'll pack up the boat and head to the island....lolComment
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just to put that number is perspective.. the spanish flu had a death rate of 2.5%...Originally posted by Mr I View Post
so the 3% number is either very inaccurate or we are seriously fucked.
if you are an older person (50 and above) with any sort of health issue or you smoke.. you are basically doomed.Comment
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Looks like the virus can be transmitted from humans to dogs..
Hong Kong Confirms Pet Dog Has Coronavirus in Suspected Human-to-Animal Transmission
The pet dog of a coronavirus patient in Hong Kong was confirmed to be infected with the disease, in a likely case of human-to-animal transmission, authorities said on Wednesday.
The canine, which belongs to a 60-year-old woman patient, had repeatedly tested "weak positive" for the new coronavirus since Friday, when it was quarantined at an animal centre.
The city's Agriculture, Fisheries and Conservation Department (AFCD) said repeated tests suggest the dog – a Pomeranian – has "a low-level of infection".
The AFCD said experts from universities and the World Organisation for Animal Health have unanimously agreed that "it is likely to be a case of human-to-animal transmission".
The Pomeranian has not shown any novel coronavirus symptoms, it said.
New measures put in place by Hong Kong's government last Friday mean all pets infected with the coronavirus must be quarantined for 14 days. Two dogs are already in isolation.
The other dog in quarantine belongs to a second coronavirus patient that tested negative for the virus once and will be tested again before its release.
Authorities said they will continue to closely monitor the Pomeranian and return it to its owner when it tests negative for the disease.
"Apart from maintaining good hygiene practices, pet owners need not be overly concerned and under no circumstances should they abandon their pets," an AFCD spokesman said.
The financial hub has confirmed 104 cases of the new coronavirus in humans, with two deaths earlier this month.
https://www.sciencealert.com/it-s-co...ew-coronavirus
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We Need Coordinated Monetary and Fiscal Stimulus to Counteract Coronavirus- Published on March 10, 2020
Ray Dalio
Co-Chief Investment Officer & Co-Chairman of Bridgewater Associates, L.P.
Anyone who is knowledgeable and plain-speaking will tell you that the negative economic impact of the coronavirus outbreak will probably be big, that monetary policy will be of little use to counteract it, and that co-ordination between political leaders and central bankers is both essential and unlikely.
What the US Federal Reserve has to offer — slightly cheaper borrowing costs and/or printing money and buying financial assets — won’t give help to those who need it. What those people and companies in distress will need (besides good medical support) is financial support to survive through serious temporary declines in their incomes.
While the emergence of coronavirus, and the economic shock that will come from it, is a surprise, several things have been obvious for some time.
First, it has been clear that an economic downturn would someday come from one trigger or other. Second, that the US economy is heavily indebted. Third, that with interest rates near zero monetary policy alone cannot be very stimulative.
Fourth, that we are now in the part of the long-term debt cycle when there needs to be good co-ordination between fiscal and monetary policymakers to handle downturns well. And last, but not least, it is obvious that the big wealth and political gaps we are now experiencing will make such co-ordination hard to come by.
Looking back to periods in history when this configuration of circumstances occurred (the last time was in the 1930s), the key differentiating factor between success and failure was the ability of fiscal and monetary policy leaders to co-ordinate.
So what needs to be done now? Most importantly, those who will be hardest hit by the virus need to be protected via fiscal policies such as bridge loans and financial assistance.
Some people will argue that providing such assistance is a bad idea. They say that our Darwinian economic system is designed to shake out those who don’t manage their finances well, or that fiscal assistance will grow the deficit.
Neither of those arguments makes any sense to me. This crisis is not a test of people and companies’ economic viability, and the cost of not providing assistance will be greater than the cost of providing it.
The coronavirus is a natural disaster, like a hurricane, that warrants financial support for responsible people and companies that would otherwise be broken by it.
There are many people living near the poverty line with no financial cushion whose economic security will be hit as hard as their health by the coronavirus tsunami. A number of otherwise strong companies likewise won’t be able to withstand the downturn.
Now imagine adding the twin health and economic shocks delivered by the outbreak and where that will lead. Imagine many companies suffering debilitating revenue losses, some too indebted because of persistently cheap money and other incentives to borrow, that will force them to cut payments to their employees and default on their debts.
Their economic problems will spread just like the virus. Providing assistance in this case is not only humane; it is good economic policy to save productive people and companies that would be broken by this situation.
The scale of the support should be in line with the scale of the crisis. It will increase the deficit which, all else being equal, will raise interest rates.
That’s where the Fed might need to come in to hold interest rates down, if need be by printing money and monetising the debt. While this fiscal-monetary co-ordination is controversial, it is the best policy under the circumstances of the economy now being so indebted and with other forms of stimulation ineffective. It is also a policy we all need to get used to because it is the only way economic policymakers will be able to deal with economic downturn in this era of near-zero interest rates.
The only remaining question to me is whether our fragmented political system, led by people who are more inclined to fight each other than to co-operate, can achieve what needs to be done.
This post originally appeared in the Financial Times.
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