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  • #16
    It's possible that you have a deep abdominal strain or tear, although that wouldn't explain the ALT fluctuations. Avoid Tylenol and other otc meds as much as possible.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by liftsiron View Post
      It's possible that you have a deep abdominal strain or tear, although that wouldn't explain the ALT fluctuations. Avoid Tylenol and other otc meds as much as possible.
      I don't touch apap or any pain meds bro - my body still fluctuates like crazy from methadone withdrawals - that's honestly the only theory I have for it - I mean for 4 weeks I was sweating 24/7 literally - couldn't drink enough water and couldn't stomach much solid food - it's been the past couple weeks that I've even been able to sleep 6 hours a night. The long term withdrawal sides from methadone can take months (getting back to normal sleep, stomach keeping food in solids - nuts aching like crazy). Only reason I bring this up is because it could be a cause / culprit in it.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by the art of war View Post
        I don't touch apap or any pain meds bro - my body still fluctuates like crazy from methadone withdrawals - that's honestly the only theory I have for it - I mean for 4 weeks I was sweating 24/7 literally - couldn't drink enough water and couldn't stomach much solid food - it's been the past couple weeks that I've even been able to sleep 6 hours a night. The long term withdrawal sides from methadone can take months (getting back to normal sleep, stomach keeping food in solids - nuts aching like crazy). Only reason I bring this up is because it could be a cause / culprit in it.
        You very well could be right, withdrawal from opiates synethic or natural can play havoc with the body. IMO you are doing the right thing in checked out by specialist...good luck.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by liftsiron View Post
          You very well could be right, withdrawal from opiates synethic or natural can play havoc with the body. IMO you are doing the right thing in checked out by specialist...good luck.
          thx bro - when your ALT values go from 48 - 129 - 240 etc .... when you get CLEAN - it's like wtf? I can't tell you how fucked up and long methadone w/d's are. If the specialist finds nothing abnormal I will be pretty well set on the fact it's the long term sides that can take months not weeks.

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          • #20
            for fucks sake - ALT 466 U/L - this shit is getting out of hand - just got the last lab in the mail today, no wonder it hurts like a bastard. That specialist better figure this shit out:fight::fight:

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            • #21
              Originally posted by the art of war View Post
              for fucks sake - ALT 466 U/L - this shit is getting out of hand - just got the last lab in the mail today, no wonder it hurts like a bastard. That specialist better figure this shit out:fight::fight:
              you sure you don't have hepatitis or something. 466 is really high bro. what does your doc say about the new levels?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                you sure you don't have hepatitis or something. 466 is really high bro. what does your doc say about the new levels?
                I've had 3 blood panels specficly for my liver bro - I have no disease like that - staring at the latest results. My doc says they have no idea since the ultrasound came back ok and nothing is showing up in the blood to spike it like this. It fucking hurts like a bastard tho man - honestly just real tired of waiting for the next thing to tell me what's wrong to find out the same shit: my liver hurts like fuck. Sorry but it's a ranting type of situation.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by the art of war View Post
                  I've had 3 blood panels specficly for my liver bro - I have no disease like that - staring at the latest results. My doc says they have no idea since the ultrasound came back ok and nothing is showing up in the blood to spike it like this. It fucking hurts like a bastard tho man - honestly just real tired of waiting for the next thing to tell me what's wrong to find out the same shit: my liver hurts like fuck. Sorry but it's a ranting type of situation.
                  no i dont blame you for wanting to rant.

                  this is pretty odd. could there be any supplements your taking, any food your eating, and liquid your drinking that is some how tainted with something?

                  i never heard of liver values raising like this when you are NOT taking any kind of drug and living a healthy life.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                    no i dont blame you for wanting to rant.

                    this is pretty odd. could there be any supplements your taking, any food your eating, and liquid your drinking that is some how tainted with something?

                    i never heard of liver values raising like this when you are NOT taking any kind of drug and living a healthy life.
                    that is what is fucking with me - aside from milk thistle and multi I am not taking anything. I don't drink, don't even take anything outside whey for lifting right now just because of the fact I knew my liver was having some sort of problem - I just don't get it, and the fact remains it's gone 48,129,240,466 - the 48 was drawn at my outpatient clinic when i was all sorts of fucked up - now I'm clean and the shit's going off the charts... dunno bro, shit's fucking frustrating.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by the art of war View Post
                      that is what is fucking with me - aside from milk thistle and multi I am not taking anything. I don't drink, don't even take anything outside whey for lifting right now just because of the fact I knew my liver was having some sort of problem - I just don't get it, and the fact remains it's gone 48,129,240,466 - the 48 was drawn at my outpatient clinic when i was all sorts of fucked up - now I'm clean and the shit's going off the charts... dunno bro, shit's fucking frustrating.
                      stop the multi until you get this figured out. it wont hurt to stop for a month or so.

                      order a few of these and triple the suggested does. much better then basic milk thistle.
                      LiverX with BioSorb 60 vegetarian caps Vegetarian Caps

                      dont use any kind of creatine etc.. for the next month. kill the extra protein powder and just get your protein from healthy food. DO take fish oil also. 6 caps a day.

                      drink a gal of water per day. not 1.5... to much.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                        stop the multi until you get this figured out. it wont hurt to stop for a month or so.

                        order a few of these and triple the suggested does. much better then basic milk thistle.
                        LiverX with BioSorb 60 vegetarian caps Vegetarian Caps

                        dont use any kind of creatine etc.. for the next month. kill the extra protein powder and just get your protein from healthy food. DO take fish oil also. 6 caps a day.

                        drink a gal of water per day. not 1.5... to much.
                        Done and done - I ordered my creatine/no products and they are sitting there sealed. I really have taken everystep I could figure to try to get to the bottom of this. Thanks for the advice B.

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                        • #27
                          Wish they would just send out a letter that said "You already know shit's not right, just come in and we will figure it out". The #s get in your head if you aren't careful - it's a legitimate concern but that being said, I could prolly raise my ALT values by stressing over it - so fuck that.

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                          • #28
                            do you live by yourself? any chance someone is slipping something in your drinks?

                            half joking but you gotta rule everything out to get to the bottom of this.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                              do you live by yourself? any chance someone is slipping something in your drinks?

                              half joking but you gotta rule everything out to get to the bottom of this.
                              not shitting you the first thing I thought about all this is I wonder if somebody is slipping me shit. I am not living alone atm but I've been drinking nothing but bottled water for the last couple weeks because of that very concern. If somebody is slipping me something I have no idea how it would be done - if I ever find out that is it though I will fucking slip lead - this shit needs to stop.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by the art of war View Post
                                not shitting you the first thing I thought about all this is I wonder if somebody is slipping me shit. I am not living alone atm but I've been drinking nothing but bottled water for the last couple weeks because of that very concern. If somebody is slipping me something I have no idea how it would be done - if I ever find out that is it though I will fucking slip lead - this shit needs to stop.
                                how about your food? any chance someone could get something in ANYTHING you eat? is the people you live with cool and normal? do they have anything agaisnt you, have you ever done them wrong.

                                i wouldn't normally suggest something so stupid and outrageous but something isnt right here.

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