Left Ventricular Hypertrophy (AAS)

[FrankTheTank55]

Had a full physical this morning. Doctor is sending me to a cardiologist for a echocardiogram this Friday because the ekg showed signs of left ventricular hypertrophy. I don't know much about this but I'll be honest, kinda scared me a little just thinking something might be wrong with my heart.

[rado]

Damn bro, that's scary shit. We all fuck with each other hard around here but when it comes to health issues, we got everyone covered with support:)

And btw, the entire crew it seems is going down?! Chadd, bouncer, you and I go next month for full check up :woot:

[Bouncer]

Sorry to hear frank, definitely one of the bad sides of long term high dose steroid use. Your on pretty high dose stuff if I remember. I'd suggest lowering the doses and getting off the harsh stuff for now brother. No tren, orals, etc..
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Long-Term Anabolic-Androgenic Steroid Use Is Associated With Left Ventricular Dysfunction

From the Division of Cardiology (A.L.B., R.B.W., M.H.P., A.M.H.), Massachusetts General Hospital, and Department of Medicine (A.L.B., R.B.W., M.H.P., A.M.H.), Harvard Medical School, Boston, Mass; Biological Psychiatry Laboratory (G.K., J.I.H., H.G.P.), McLean Hospital, Belmont, Mass; and Department of Psychiatry (G.K., J.I.H., H.G.P.), Harvard Medical School, Boston, Mass.

Background — Although illicit anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) use is widespread, the cardiac effects of long-term AAS use remain inadequately characterized. We compared cardiac parameters in weightlifters reporting long-term AAS use to those in otherwise similar weightlifters without prior AAS exposure.

Methods and Results— We performed 2D tissue-Doppler and speckle-tracking echocardiography to assess left ventricular (LV) ejection fraction, LV systolic strain, and conventional indices of diastolic function in long-term AAS users (n=12) and otherwise similar AAS nonusers (n=7). AAS users (median [quartile 1, quartile 3] cumulative lifetime AAS exposure, 468 [169, 520] weeks) closely resembled nonusers in age, prior duration of weightlifting, and current intensity of weight training. LV structural parameters were similar between the two groups; however, AAS users had significantly lower LV ejection fraction (50.6% [48.4, 53.6] versus 59.1% [58.0%, 61.7%]; P=0.003 by two-tailed Wilcoxon rank sum test), longitudinal strain (16.9% [14.0%, 19.0%] versus 21.0% [20.2%, 22.9%]; P=0.004), and radial strain (38.3% [28.5%, 43.7%] versus 50.1% [44.3%, 61.8%]; P=0.02). Ten of the 12 AAS users showed LV ejection fractions below the accepted limit of normal (≥55%). AAS users also demonstrated decreased diastolic function compared to nonusers as evidenced by a markedly lower early peak tissue velocity (7.4 [6.8, 7.9] cm/s versus 9.9 [8.3, 10.5] cm/s; P=0.005) and early-to-late diastolic filling ratio (0.93 [0.88, 1.39] versus 1.80 [1.48, 2.00]; P=0.003).

Conclusions— Cardiac dysfunction in long-term AAS users appears to be more severe than previously reported and may be sufficient to increase the risk of heart failure.

[Bouncer]

And btw, the entire crew it seems is going down?! Chadd, bouncer, you and I go next month for full check up :woot:

Not me! i just trained myself so hard I passed out and fractured my back. Alpha shit. I'm on the mend now bitch. Just gotta numb the nerve with spinal injection and I'll be 300lbs in no time! :cheese:

[Chadd77]

Don't forget about Mr I and Lip just recently hurting himself. lol

I trained so hard I blew an artery. Only spent a day in the hospital. B, passes out and spends over a weekend there. Kids!

[Bouncer]

what did rip do? hurt himself scaling a goldfish?

[rado]

Sorry to hear frank, definitely one of the bad sides of long term high dose steroid use. Your on pretty high dose stuff if I remember. I'd suggest lowering the doses and getting off the harsh stuff for now brother. No tren, orals, etc..
_______________________________________

Long-Term Anabolic-Androgenic Steroid Use Is Associated With Left Ventricular Dysfunction

From the Division of Cardiology (A.L.B., R.B.W., M.H.P., A.M.H.), Massachusetts General Hospital, and Department of Medicine (A.L.B., R.B.W., M.H.P., A.M.H.), Harvard Medical School, Boston, Mass; Biological Psychiatry Laboratory (G.K., J.I.H., H.G.P.), McLean Hospital, Belmont, Mass; and Department of Psychiatry (G.K., J.I.H., H.G.P.), Harvard Medical School, Boston, Mass.

Background — Although illicit anabolic-androgenic steroid (AAS) use is widespread, the cardiac effects of long-term AAS use remain inadequately characterized. We compared cardiac parameters in weightlifters reporting long-term AAS use to those in otherwise similar weightlifters without prior AAS exposure.

Methods and Results— We performed 2D tissue-Doppler and speckle-tracking echocardiography to assess left ventricular (LV) ejection fraction, LV systolic strain, and conventional indices of diastolic function in long-term AAS users (n=12) and otherwise similar AAS nonusers (n=7). AAS users (median [quartile 1, quartile 3] cumulative lifetime AAS exposure, 468 [169, 520] weeks) closely resembled nonusers in age, prior duration of weightlifting, and current intensity of weight training. LV structural parameters were similar between the two groups; however, AAS users had significantly lower LV ejection fraction (50.6% [48.4, 53.6] versus 59.1% [58.0%, 61.7%]; P=0.003 by two-tailed Wilcoxon rank sum test), longitudinal strain (16.9% [14.0%, 19.0%] versus 21.0% [20.2%, 22.9%]; P=0.004), and radial strain (38.3% [28.5%, 43.7%] versus 50.1% [44.3%, 61.8%]; P=0.02). Ten of the 12 AAS users showed LV ejection fractions below the accepted limit of normal (≥55%). AAS users also demonstrated decreased diastolic function compared to nonusers as evidenced by a markedly lower early peak tissue velocity (7.4 [6.8, 7.9] cm/s versus 9.9 [8.3, 10.5] cm/s; P=0.005) and early-to-late diastolic filling ratio (0.93 [0.88, 1.39] versus 1.80 [1.48, 2.00]; P=0.003).

Conclusions— Cardiac dysfunction in long-term AAS users appears to be more severe than previously reported and may be sufficient to increase the risk of heart failure.

damn good find bro!:thumb:

Not me! i just trained myself so hard I passed out and fractured my back. Alpha shit. I'm on the mend now bitch. Just gotta numb the nerve with spinal injection and I'll be 300lbs in no time! :cheese:

Alpha needing meds to recover when he bump his head:retard::rofl:

Don't forget about Mr I and Lip just recently hurting himself. lol

I trained so hard I blew an artery. Only spent a day in the hospital. B, passes out and spends over a weekend there. Kids!

ha ha

what did rip do? hurt himself scaling a goldfish?

:rofl::rofl:

[Scrumhalf]

Damn.. sorry to hear, Frank! Hope the echo comes back looking ok.

[dna9488]

Sorry to hear Frank. Wish you all the best. Keeps us updated.

[Mr I]

Horseshit!!

Most athletes have it, in drugs or not. It's as common as a slight enlarged heart.


No big deal at moderate levels. Don't work yourself up bro

[FrankTheTank55]

Horseshit!!

Most athletes have it, in drugs or not. It's as common as a slight enlarged heart.


No big deal at moderate levels. Don't work yourself up bro

Thats what im hoping! Its got my mind playing tricks on me. I keep thinking I'm having chest pains.....lol

[Bouncer]

Yea the mind games can fuck you up Frank. Just relax. I kept thinking I was gonna pass out again and hit my head again after my little incident. I'm sure your fine brother. The stress alone will give you a heart attack. :D

[redback]

I was told I had an enlarged heart a few years ago. The doc didn't seem too concerned.

[Bouncer]

I was told I had an enlarged heart a few years ago. The doc didn't seem too concerned.

You were pretty concerned though right? I feel like that's kinda when you went anti steroid on us. I feel like I remember you talking about the heart issue before.

[redback]

You were pretty concerned though right? I feel like that's kinda when you went anti steroid on us. I feel like I remember you talking about the heart issue before.

Lol yeh I was concerned and was using a ton of shit at the time. I'm not really anti steroid just backed off alot. I plan to do a cycle at the end of the year but it would just be test. Not interested in tren or anything like that anymore.