meal plan

[Bouncer]

bah, sounds like a cell tech add. not so sure about all that bro.

[coffee-guy]

meal 1 - 2 scoops protein - 1 cup oatmeal - 24 oz coffee -
10 grams glutamine - 10 grams bcaa - 10 grams arginine base - digestive enzymes - and other supps

meal 2 - 8 oz chicken - 1/4 cup of walnuts - 5 grams glutamine - digestive enzymes - calcium citrate -

meal 3 - 8 oz chicken - 1/2 cup brown basmati rice - 1 cup spinach - digestive enzymes - 10 grams glutamine - calcium citrate

meal 4 - 8 oz chicken - 1/4 cup walnuts - 5 grams glutamine - digestive enzymes - calcium citrate -

meal 5 - pre workout - 1 .5 scoops of protein - 1 cup oatmeal - 10 grams glutamine - 10 grams arginine base - 10 grams bcaa - 5 grams ala - 5 grams alcar -

meal 6 - post workout - 2 scoops protein - 50 grams malto - 10 grams glutamine - 10 grams arginine base - 5 grams ala - 5 grams alcar - 10 grams bcaa

meal 7 - 8 oz orange roughy -- 1 cup spinach or broccoli - digestive enzymes

i cut out meal 8 -- will add in at a later date -

will be starting to do 45 to 60 minutes am cardio before my first meal aswell

I'm in complete agreeance with B bro...

Up the fats and carbs for sure - if it doesn't work the way you want you can always manipulate the nutrient ratios later - if you lose muscle though it's a LOT harder to get back....

The only thing I *think* should change that hasn't been mentioned is that meal 7 should have some carbs IMO - it's still a PWO meal in my opinion and needs carbs......

Of course that would mean meal 8 could be carb free just to be safe....

On a side not - since you're "clean" now are you messing with slin or anything *legal* like that now????

[coffee-guy]

What about Arginine? Todd had you taking a lot of that stuff while cutting at one point too didn't he?

[coffee-guy]

no and no. lol. meal 1 should be one of your highest calorie meals of the day. "the protein absorption" thing is a little overrated. the body will absorb it just fine. i use to separate fat and carb meals but palumbo has pounded into my head that it just doesn't work like that. healthy fats should be included in every meal besides pre and post workout.

I've been arguing that with you for a while - too bad I didn't tell you I learned it from Palumbo a long time ago you asshat :moon:

[Bouncer]

I've been arguing that with you for a while - too bad I didn't tell you I learned it from Palumbo a long time ago you asshat :moon:

ha!

[bigscott]

I'm in complete agreeance with B bro...

Up the fats and carbs for sure - if it doesn't work the way you want you can always manipulate the nutrient ratios later - if you lose muscle though it's a LOT harder to get back....

The only thing I *think* should change that hasn't been mentioned is that meal 7 should have some carbs IMO - it's still a PWO meal in my opinion and needs carbs......

Of course that would mean meal 8 could be carb free just to be safe....

On a side not - since you're "clean" now are you messing with slin or anything *legal* like that now????

hey fog -- yes i will be incorperating slin at some point - i spoke with someone extensivly on the slin subject over the weekend-- also 3 other things i will not mention on the boards -- arginine is and will always be a part of my setups -- todd does have some great ideas like the glutamine aswell -- bouncer you should read up more on glutamine -- its good for the stomach aswell which is a huge plus since mine is so fucked up -

my goal is to keep working at my weak points - have to be smarter about it as i cant add certain supps to help achieve that on a greater scale -- i will compete at masters nationals in 2 years -- need to keep myself in check for the time being --

thanks for your input bro --

[Bouncer]

slin = the worst thing that ever happened to bodybuilding.

[bigscott]

slin = the worst thing that ever happened to bodybuilding.

agreed if overused -- a great tool if not abused --

[Bouncer]

i dont know how something like that cant be abused.

[sonis9]

Scott- i agree with bouncer and a few others here. looks pretty good, but throw some fats in at meal #1 for sure!!

[bigscott]

Scott- i agree with bouncer and a few others here. looks pretty good, but throw some fats in at meal #1 for sure!!

thank you -- really appreciate it