My promis to myself with your help...

[Bouncer]

Get it out there. I'd rather know what you have to say, be confused and have to work my way through it than not have the knowledge at all. I am assuming that you think a supp. like malto, etc. would be a better pwo carb source? I was going to ask him about that. The reason I am posting this is to get info and determine if I should hire this guy or not. He seems receptive to what I have to say.

well the diet just isn't as effective as it could be.

first i would add more carbs to your first meal, that meal is the fuel for the day. 1/3 cup of oats is not enough. thats only like 25 grams of carbs. you need around 40 grams of carbs at the very least.

not sure what he is referring to by "1/2 cup of starch" in your other meals. i would replace that with 3/4 cup long grain brown rice in those meals.

yes, malto would be a better option for PWO then white bread.

the 9:30 meal is worthless. thats only 12 grams of protein. not a meal. the 10:15 meal only has 25 grams of protein. i would combine those 2 meals and eat them at 10.

i would also include fish oil into your diet.

[NewbieChris]

its a fast absorbing carb for post workout.

its crap IMO compared to other much better sources.

i am kind of at a loss of what to say. i personally think this trainers diet plan really needs some work. then again i adont want to confuse chris even more. lol.

Get it out there. I'd rather know what you have to say, be confused and have to work my way through it than not have the knowledge at all. I am assuming that you think a supp. like malto, etc. would be a better pwo carb source? I was going to ask him about that. The reason I am posting this is to get info and determine if I should hire this guy or not. He seems receptive to what I have to say.

[Bouncer]

Why the white bread and not a better carb source?

its a fast absorbing carb for post workout.

its crap IMO compared to other much better sources.

i am kind of at a loss of what to say. i personally think this trainers diet plan really needs some work. then again i adont want to confuse chris even more. lol.

[FitnessBrat]

Why the white bread and not a better carb source?

This has nothing to do with the thread, but not having an avatar must be the cool thing to do now, lol

[NewbieChris]

I like it, it's one of favorites. :)

Any diet comments?

[wnabeabeast]

Oh and what are your thoughts on a circuit routine? I almost puked doing it today...

I like it, it's one of favorites. :)

[NewbieChris]

Oh and what are your thoughts on a circuit routine? I almost puked doing it today...

[NewbieChris]

Well there are really only 8 meals. There are 11 breakdowns there, but not all are meals. The first one isn't a meal, neither is the 6:30 am or 6:00 pm. Those are just there to let you know when I am doing things.

Overall what do you think about the meals and their contents? I don't mind the small serving of starch.

[Bouncer]

Just so none of you have an aneurysm reading this post. I have not given this guy any money yet, and I have not agreed to anything. Today was my 'sizing up' day to determine where I am at and exactly what he needs to do with the workout. It is a strict circuit routine with about 10 exercises and then a break. The following is the diet he has prescribed...

6:15
Multi-vitamin
litre of water
green tea

6:30
40 min of cardio (HR 160)

7:15
1/3 cup dry oats
6 egg whites, 1 yolk (2 on lifting days)
1 serving of Fiber Choice (tablet)

10:30
3 scoops Ctyogainer w/ water

1:45
6 oz chicken
6 oz veggies
1/2 cup of starch

5:00
same as above with steak

6:00-7:00
M-W-F: Lift 'circuit' + 30 minutes of easy cardio
T/Th-Sat: 40 min cardio (he is a very large fan of the stair master)

7:00pm
2 scoops whey
2 pieces of white bread, 1 on non workout days (Specifically says the white bread because it will be absorbed quickly)

7:45
same as 5:00 and 1:45

9:30
4 egg whites

10:15
Casein 1 scoop and 1 fibre choice



I am somewhat skeptical. I like the idea of eggs as my last meal, but I am worried specifically about the ctyogainer replacing a meal. I am also somewhat worried about the casein protein. My supplement costs when from almost nothing to through the roof. Although I suppose I will be saving money in food, but I just don't know.

i would like to see the calorie breakdown and protein/carbs/fats in grams in each meal. looks a bit all over the place to me. 4 eggs whites as a meal? 1/2 cup of startch? 11 total meals?

i would rather see a more complete setup stretched over 6-7 meals then random little meals stretched over 11.

[NewbieChris]

Just so none of you have an aneurysm reading this post. I have not given this guy any money yet, and I have not agreed to anything. Today was my 'sizing up' day to determine where I am at and exactly what he needs to do with the workout. It is a strict circuit routine with about 10 exercises and then a break. The following is the diet he has prescribed...

6:15
Multi-vitamin
litre of water
green tea

6:30
40 min of cardio (HR 160)

7:15
1/3 cup dry oats
6 egg whites, 1 yolk (2 on lifting days)
1 serving of Fiber Choice (tablet)

10:30
3 scoops Ctyogainer w/ water

1:45
6 oz chicken
6 oz veggies
1/2 cup of starch

5:00
same as above with steak

6:00-7:00
M-W-F: Lift 'circuit' + 30 minutes of easy cardio
T/Th-Sat: 40 min cardio (he is a very large fan of the stair master)

7:00pm
2 scoops whey
2 pieces of white bread, 1 on non workout days (Specifically says the white bread because it will be absorbed quickly)

7:45
same as 5:00 and 1:45

9:30
4 egg whites

10:15
Casein 1 scoop and 1 fibre choice



I am somewhat skeptical. I like the idea of eggs as my last meal, but I am worried specifically about the ctyogainer replacing a meal. I am also somewhat worried about the casein protein. My supplement costs when from almost nothing to through the roof. Although I suppose I will be saving money in food, but I just don't know.

[wnabeabeast]

you were never accused of being a genius were you. :drunk:

Yeeaaah actually I was many times, that's the problem...I am to smart for my own good.:D:evil:

[Bouncer]

Sorry!:( :D

you were never accused of being a genius were you. :drunk:

[wnabeabeast]

I didn't say it was hard. I just meant by trying to make things "simple" to someone that overthinks - you came along and threw in all kinds of stuff lol. :P

Sorry!:( :D

[FitnessBrat]

Naah it sounds hard but it's not.
I think I kinda made it simpler at the end by saying mon tue wed no carb day game.
Didn't I?:dunno::D

I didn't say it was hard. I just meant by trying to make things "simple" to someone that overthinks - you came along and threw in all kinds of stuff lol. :P

[wnabeabeast]

lol, "it's easy Chris"...

YOU just posted the most complicated post of anyone. :wacko:

Naah it sounds hard but it's not.
I think I kinda made it simpler at the end by saying mon tue wed no carb day game.
Didn't I?:dunno::D