My promis to myself with your help...

[Bouncer]

I think right now I am just mentally frustrated.

i think that is because you have not dedicated yourself and set your mind on a plan and a goal. you are all over the place.

[NewbieChris]

when you talk to someone about "health" such as a doc or "dietitian" they will tell you that milk and fruit etc are important.

problem is, a diet with fruit and milk wont get you the results you want. a bodybuilding diet is setup for results, not necessarily for health. though it is much more healthy then most diets.

bottom line, if you want results, follow a bodybuilding diet. if you want to keep your current look and be "healthy" then do what the dietitian tells you.

I feel like the diet you guys have helped me create is good. This guy seems to have a similar mentality as many people here, but I say that only having spoken to him for about an hour and only knowing you all via the internet. I think right now I am just mentally frustrated.

[Bouncer]

I guess what I am concerned about is understanding how things work. For example, talking to a dietitian I was told that fruits and milk are important. Talking to you guys, it seems that you believe there are too many sugars in such items to gain a benefit. That is the reason I decided to take this to a trainer as well. I don't really need help with training, IMO. What I am hoping to gather from his is the ability to understand changes in my body and how my body reacts to things.

when you talk to someone about "health" such as a doc or "dietitian" they will tell you that milk and fruit etc are important.

problem is, a diet with fruit and milk wont get you the results you want. a bodybuilding diet is setup for results, not necessarily for health. though it is much more healthy then most diets.

bottom line, if you want results, follow a bodybuilding diet. if you want to keep your current look and be "healthy" then do what the dietitian tells you.

[NewbieChris]

i think a trainer would be good for you in terms of working out. in terms of actual diet, you cant get better info then right here. we have told you exactly what you need to be eating countless times. not sure what you don't get when it comes to diet. if you are confused about something lets hear it.

I guess what I am concerned about is understanding how things work. For example, talking to a dietitian I was told that fruits and milk are important. Talking to you guys, it seems that you believe there are too many sugars in such items to gain a benefit. That is the reason I decided to take this to a trainer as well. I don't really need help with training, IMO. What I am hoping to gather from his is the ability to understand changes in my body and how my body reacts to things.

[Bouncer]

I feel like there is so much out there and so many people use things differently and I don't know what the hell to do.:breakit::breakit::breakit:

i think a trainer would be good for you in terms of working out. in terms of actual diet, you cant get better info then right here. we have told you exactly what you need to be eating countless times. not sure what you don't get when it comes to diet. if you are confused about something lets hear it.

[NewbieChris]

I feel like there is so much out there and so many people use things differently and I don't know what the hell to do.:breakit::breakit::breakit:

[Bouncer]

Well I thought I would have this trainers diet by now, but I don't. When we talked on Wednesday he told me he wants me to replace a meal with something called Cytogainer. He wants me to use half a serving of that as my second meal. I like that idea because it is less time out of the day, but I would like to know what you all think. Regardless I am going to try whatever diet he gives me. Also, he wants me to take Zinc at night and drink a lot of green tea. Finally he wants me to up to 2 gallons of water!

This is what we spoke about Wednesday, I don't know what the prescribed diet looks like yet.

well that is a weight gainer powder. i think that is pretty much the opposite of what you are trying to accomplish. weight gainer powder has no place in a cutting diet. guy sounds like a fucking idiot to be honest.

[NewbieChris]

i have tried to, "just enjoy myself" but it really never works. you are so used to eating a certain way and have so much knowledge about how bad junk food is, you almost feel like you are poisoning yourself and that is hard to just ignore.

Take that, reverse it and finally understand where I am coming from...minus the 'poisoning yourself' part.

[NewbieChris]

Post the entire diet when you get it along with your proposed workouts - I'm already a little skeptical - no trainer should be promoting supplements IMO....

I was a little put off by that as well. He said he is just a big fan of it. :dunno:

[wnabeabeast]

Hey bro I am glad you are sticking with your diet, and looks like you started to make some progress. Ok I am gonna be litte rough here hope you don't mind it. When I started to read this post I was getting pretty mad at you for posting all your daily problems like your car overheating or in your third day not being able to stand the smell of the eggs and stuff like that, well guess what no body gives a shit they are all small problems it happens to all of us in our daily lives and they are no excuse for missing a meal or not trainging as long as you fix your food the night before and pack it in a cooler I don't care what happens you are not going to miss a meal peroid. Hell I have a buddy of mine he is getting ready to do a show in a couple of months and he just lost his mother to liver cancer last month and now he is more determined then ever, so just suck it up do it damn it.:)


Ok, I vented and I am good now!:D


Now your diet...I don't know your stats but it ain't no rocket science bro, just keep your protein in take at least a gram of per pound of your body weight(you can do 1.5 gram per pound if you want) and manupilate your carbs during the week add some healthy fats and you are good to go.


Again sorry about being so rough.

[coffee-guy]

Well I thought I would have this trainers diet by now, but I don't. When we talked on Wednesday he told me he wants me to replace a meal with something called Cytogainer. He wants me to use half a serving of that as my second meal. I like that idea because it is less time out of the day, but I would like to know what you all think. Regardless I am going to try whatever diet he gives me. Also, he wants me to take Zinc at night and drink a lot of green tea. Finally he wants me to up to 2 gallons of water!

This is what we spoke about Wednesday, I don't know what the prescribed diet looks like yet.

Post the entire diet when you get it along with your proposed workouts - I'm already a little skeptical - no trainer should be promoting supplements IMO....

[NewbieChris]

Well I thought I would have this trainers diet by now, but I don't. When we talked on Wednesday he told me he wants me to replace a meal with something called Cytogainer. He wants me to use half a serving of that as my second meal. I like that idea because it is less time out of the day, but I would like to know what you all think. Regardless I am going to try whatever diet he gives me. Also, he wants me to take Zinc at night and drink a lot of green tea. Finally he wants me to up to 2 gallons of water!

This is what we spoke about Wednesday, I don't know what the prescribed diet looks like yet.

[Bouncer]

Yep - and because of that I don't eat as much and I don't get as hungry - not to mention I normally try to give myself a break and just have fun instead of worrying so much about my goals that it gets in the way of the vacation itself....

i have tried to, "just enjoy myself" but it really never works. you are so used to eating a certain way and have so much knowledge about how bad junk food is, you almost feel like you are poisoning yourself and that is hard to just ignore.

[coffee-guy]

yea, and i dont know about you but if i have to eat like shit, (such as on like a cruise) it almost ruins the trip for me. i feel like absolute shit after the second day.

Yep - and because of that I don't eat as much and I don't get as hungry - not to mention I normally try to give myself a break and just have fun instead of worrying so much about my goals that it gets in the way of the vacation itself....

[Bouncer]

Today went well in my opinion. I ate an hour late for meal 2 because I was at the Franklin Institute and you can't have food unless you are in the lunch rooms. From there I ate every 2hrs 45mins, so 2:45, 5:30 (pre-workout). Just got home from the gym.

good to hear. sounds like you are trying your best and not making up a bunch of shit. keep it up.