High fat/low carb or High carb/low fat, it does not matter much

[AvidFisherman]

My understanding was the inverse.

For weight loss if you go high fat/low carb or high carb/low fat, it does not matter much as long as you do not go over your TDEE.

For muscle building though it does make a difference.

"Dietary fat is stored as body fat with roughly 96% efficiency. Dietary carbohydrate is stored as body fat with roughly 80% efficiency, while it is stored as muscle glycogen with roughly 95% efficiency. It is quite clear that dietary fat is stored far more efficiently as body fat than carbohydrate."

The Truth About High Fat Diets - Science Driven Nutrition

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[Androman]

For losing fat it doesn't matter, you're right. But for bulking or gaining muscle, high carb is essential.


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[AvidFisherman]

"Eating fat makes you burn fat:*True

High fat diets make you burn more calories:*False

A ketogenic state makes you burn the most fat and offers a metabolic advantage:*False

Eating more fat makes your lose more fat since you are using fat for fuel:*False

Carbohydrates are stored more easily than fat:*False

You eat less when you eat high fat meals:*False

Fat is more satiating than carbohydrates:*False

Eating fat before a meal makes you eat less:*False"

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[Androman]

I used to do keto when cutting only done it twice, it wasn't full on keto but most likely no carbs and high fats trying to get me into keto, I felt like I lost muscle. No strength no pumps my skin looked more pale also, I also got keto rash. Fuck that. I learned I can still cut down fat and still enjoy my carbs.


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[AvidFisherman]

I have been listening to the TNT podcast and those coaches only use it in the weeks leading up to a contest if their person stops responding to their regular methods.

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[Bouncer]

Good post Avid. Everything you posted is exactly what I found out through experimentation. Been saying for years when I drop the carbs and eat more fat my muscles deflate and I store more fat. When I eat high protein, high carb, very little fat I drop bodyfat like crazy, my muscles look fuller, I'm stronger in the gym and I feel better.

I don't eat anymore than 25 grams of fat a day when eating clean which is 9 months of the year. (I up the cals around the holidays).

The fat I do eat when eating clean comes from avacado and fish oil.

So yea, I agree with the article. At times over the years I felt like I was the only one in the world not on the "low carb high fat train".

[AvidFisherman]

I have been listening to the TNT podcast and those coaches only use it in the weeks leading up to a contest if their person stops responding to their regular methods.

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"It" being keto.

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