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    What are the common wrong advice and teasing u hear in the gym? I mean as in people giving out wrong advice when thier not even in shape at all. Or when u see someone working out and doing the exercises all wrong. Also teasings, for example football players, coaches calling kids pussies for not lifting heavy. Im just 22 years of age and been training since i was 13. Im not too of an expert but probably have a better body than most 30-40 year olds. I ve heard storeis of people training for years and not gaining shit. Ive been hitting the gym seriously since 2000 and gained tremendous size hitting my best at 230 pounds from a 130 pound weakling. I see alot of people here in my gym giving out wrong advice on diets, workouts, and routines, and all. Ive corrected alot of those wrong advice giving peeople before. Im just the kind of guy who loves helping people achieving good results and all. I love seeing people smile about themselves when they see progress.

    These are common mistakes I see in the gym.

    On chest, people benching and letting the weight go down fast, instead of bringing it down slowly to feel the muscle. I see alot of people not going all the way down to the chest, instead just going half way up and down. Not gonna grow there BUDDY I tell them. Also the chest bouncing thing, ouch. Not only they could hurt themselves but no growth.
    Ive seen some crazy people doing the chest machine seated. Some dude was once doing reps of 20 with a light-mid weight. He would finish a set and rest 10 seconds and then doing another and so on. When he was finished he was done with 10 sets on about 5 minutes. The moves on to back, and the same, and to the next body part, the whole body entirly.

    For back, ive seen guys round thier back for rows. No wonder they complain about back hurting. For the lat pull downs, people going with the momentum of the weight. They bring the weight up and go with the cable up too , out of thier seat.

    I once needed to use the leg press machine and this lady was on it to a long time. Me thiniinking she was gonna be off it. So im there and nothing. The lady was doing reps and reps non stop. Doing them fast and partial reps. Now shes off it, me thinking im next, no she increases the weight and sits on it again. Another 6 sets or so. Pisses me off.
    Ive seen people lock thier legs alot, OUCH. JUts never wanna see someone snap thier kneecaps.

    CURLS are the funny ones. I see some dudes doing what they call heacy, making all these funny faces and swinging thier bodies with the weight. Walking around like if they got big guns. Hahahaha.




    The majority of people who I see there just do simple workouts, consisting of 3 sets per bodypart, oh and a full body workout.
    I also hear people saying if its ok to do one day upper and one day lower body. This is where I explain on how it all workouts out and abot rest and growth.

    This man there once in his 30's-40's was giving people advice once and people asking for more and more. He would practically swing the weight or had no form. He said he had 15 years of training experience. I was like wtf have u done wrong. He didnt even looked like he worked out at all. I was about 3 times bigger than him. Ha dto correct the guy.



    I always tell people to eat right, the right foods. Get good rest. Eat every 3 hours and consume good amounts of protein if they wanna grow. For the ones who barely started wokring out, I tell them to eat 4 meals a day to start off with. Increasing little by little. I tell them training is good but if u do it right and the diet is what makes u grow. I wonder why some football players at my school when i was on it back in 1999, juicing up and wondered why they never grew. Or people lifting heavy and all and not growing. Its all about diet and eating good foods.

    I explain about training routines alot too. I tell them not to hit the same bodypart everyday. U will burn ur muscle off and no growth nor results. I see some doing upper one day and lower the other. I tell them to best combine a big muscle with a little mucle and thats all they need. Working it out 1 time a week is enough if u do it good and correct.


    WHAT PISSESME off is people who laugh at others for not lifting heavy. Who cares is u lift heavy or not. We are all beginers at one time. I just dont like people getting hurt because of some fools trying to look cool. FORM is what counts alot and not using momentum. I rather see a guy life a light weight and with good form than to see him struggling with a dumbell or barbell on his 2nd rep. I hate little punks who ask me about how much I bench, I go look I dont max out. I just do whta i can to achieve my goals. I do max out once in a while but concentrate more on muscle grwoing.



    The best reward from all this is when all the people u helped come to u and tell u how good of a workout they had, and how thier bodies are changing because of me helping them. I love helping people out alot.

    I helped my 19 year sister with her training and body. She has a killer body for her age and could compete if she wanted to. Shes lean as hell. She has a better body than most 20-40 ladies ive seen. Shes also helping alot of people out in training and running. Since she was in track, vollyball, and cross country, she jogs with alot of people and they have lost weight because of that.
    Also, I trained some dude once in the gym. He would do the workouts all wrong and all. He came to me once and asked for advice. He wanted to put on some weight. I gave him all the advice he wanted to know. He said if he could use creatine, I go yea but alone it wont make u bigger. U need food and lots of protein. I told him to get some WHEY, so he did. I created a diet for him. After that I went to workout somewhere else never saw the guy. But he keep the routines and all. About 2 months later I went back to the same gym and saw some dude looking at me. He goes "yo", I was amazed. He has put on 15 pounds of muscle in 2 months. More fuller and bigger. I go to him , I told u bro. Just thanked me.
    Ive helped alot of people out, and inspired alot of people too. Helped a friend go from 130-to 180 in a summer. Shouldve seen his face.



    Im not a bber nor do I compete but i will in the near future. I was gonna do the local show here but instead waited for next year. Im gonna hit them with something the city hasnt seen, hehehehe. The biggest guy in the show was about 210 at 5'10''. Right now im at 228 now. Still gaining size, since the show is next July2005 I will have enough time to add some serious size. On cycle right now and aint stopping it ill December or January. Hope I hit 240 or if i could more. I aont no expert but from my personal experience I tey to help with the best that I can. I had some pics here from last year but theres a makor change in me from last year. I feel better about myself now than I did before.
    Hope I didnt bore u all.:D

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    Yes I noticed a few of the same if not all at my gym. I cringe a little bit when I see it but I dont say anything. Mainly because I did once and the next day they were doing it the same way. So hopefully they stroll on to a board like this or another good online site that can direct them. It sucks when people put the time into doing stuff but do it wrong and get no results. Hmmm But I think if your really dedicated, U wont just go in there and lift. You'll research a bit and asked a professional trainer or some type of vet for some starting tips yah know, It's funny how ppl waste there time but most importantly money.

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    • #3
      juka what the hell are you talkin about mate lol

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      • #4
        Common stupid shit I hear in the gym: some are commoon some are not-

        1. Those annoying hyper fucks that say to people "You have to come every day to achieve your goal!!!!" FUCK YOU-no I don't, the fact that you cover up your pathetic life with lifting and exerecise doesn't mean the rest of us do!!!!

        2. Heavy weight will build mass- NO IT WON'T

        3. Lighter weights will tone you- OKAY stand still so when I throw this 10 pound PINK dumbell at you it hits you in the head so the word "TONE" is lost from your Vocablulary

        4. How much do you bench? I DON'T KNOW, HOW MUCH DO YOU SHIT? Because my question is as about as relevant as yours when it pertains to bodybuiliding!!!!

        5. This is my own-have you noticed that as aerobics classes have progressed over the years, the more and more weight lifting equipment goes into the room to be incoporated with the bouncing around they do. Do you think one day they will realize that a healthy lifting plan could solve all their problems in about 1/4 of the time (actually there is no comparison because aerbocis will never get anyone anywhere unless they were already there in the first place). Someday people from the 430 BUTTS and GUTS classes are going to have an epiphany when they exit the room into the weight room and realize they can do everything they need in the room they avoided the most. LOL

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        • #5
          Originally posted by stonecold54
          3. Lighter weights will tone you- OKAY stand still so when I throw this 10 pound PINK dumbell at you it hits you in the head so the word "TONE" is lost from your Vocablulary

          :rofl: :rofl:
          OMG

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          • #6
            Originally posted by stonecold54
            3. Lighter weights will tone you- OKAY stand still so when I throw this 10 pound PINK dumbell at you it hits you in the head so the word "TONE" is lost from your Vocablulary

            :rofl:Very good!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by stonecold54

              1. Those annoying hyper fucks that say to people "You have to come every day to achieve your goal!!!!" FUCK YOU-no I don't, the fact that you cover up your pathetic life with lifting and exerecise doesn't mean the rest of us do!!!!
              definitely DON'T agree with this one. everyone's goals are different at different phases of their lives.

              my current goal - to compete in a show in september. i'm in the gym 2x's a day 6 days a week. am i covering up my pathetic life with lifting and exercise?

              some people need more than 3 or 4 days a week in the gym to grow - or even to maintain.

              i think just because your goals can be achieved with less time in the gym doesn't mean other people don't have lives outside the gym if they choose to spend an hour a day there.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by sana
                definitely DON'T agree with this one. everyone's goals are different at different phases of their lives.

                my current goal - to compete in a show in september. i'm in the gym 2x's a day 6 days a week. am i covering up my pathetic life with lifting and exercise?

                some people need more than 3 or 4 days a week in the gym to grow - or even to maintain.

                i think just because your goals can be achieved with less time in the gym doesn't mean other people don't have lives outside the gym if they choose to spend an hour a day there.
                I can't agree with that. I would read the book The Stress of Life by Hans Seyle for an understanding of how stressors affect the body and it will open up a whole new world to what is actually happening to your body and why it does not follow that lifting weights more than once or twice a week is necessary to gain or maintain. I could talk for hours on the topic but I don't want to write it all down. i guess I could tone down my tone about wasting time. :D that was just the tone of my post (and I know you are in the gym actually lifting weights, not doing aerobics, LOL).

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by stonecold54

                  4. How much do you bench? I DON'T KNOW, HOW MUCH DO YOU SHIT? Because my question is as about as relevant as yours when it pertains to bodybuiliding!!!!
                  I want to say something like that everytime I hear that. Usually I'll be like I don't know but it's probably more than you. And i'll never know cause i don't need to lift that much weight to get some size.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by stonecold54
                    I can't agree with that. I would read the book The Stress of Life by Hans Seyle for an understanding of how stressors affect the body and it will open up a whole new world to what is actually happening to your body and why it does not follow that lifting weights more than once or twice a week is necessary to gain or maintain. I could talk for hours on the topic but I don't want to write it all down. i guess I could tone down my tone about wasting time. :D that was just the tone of my post (and I know you are in the gym actually lifting weights, not doing aerobics, LOL).
                    but what national level - or even regional - competitors do you know who only lift once or twice a week?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by sana
                      but what national level - or even regional - competitors do you know who only lift once or twice a week?
                      there have been a plethora (that was for Redsquirrel) that have used a High-intensity or close to High-intensity workout both bodybuilders and sports teams but that in no way proves one method over another. Just like there are people who train volume and have success in no way proves one method over another. The fact that you can make gains on a certain amount of volume does not mean that it is the best for you. I have a ton I could talk about but I am at work and my computer at home is screwed up. But I love talking about this.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by stonecold54
                        there have been a plethora (that was for Redsquirrel) that have used a High-intensity or close to High-intensity workout both bodybuilders and sports teams but that in no way proves one method over another. Just like there are people who train volume and have success in no way proves one method over another. The fact that you can make gains on a certain amount of volume does not mean that it is the best for you. I have a ton I could talk about but I am at work and my computer at home is screwed up. But I love talking about this.
                        lol - i think you're gonna need to use this theory to convince me that ronnie coleman or dorian would have been greater than they could have been if they only trained once or twice a week...

                        better yet, use that theory and explain how flex was better in '93 when he actually trained "balls to the wall" instead of his normal half assed training (not showing up to train everyday) of his.... :D

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by sana
                          lol - i think you're gonna need to use this theory to convince me that ronnie coleman or dorian would have been greater than they could have been if they only trained once or twice a week...

                          better yet, use that theory and explain how flex was better in '93 when he actually trained "balls to the wall" instead of his normal half assed training (not showing up to train everyday) of his.... :D
                          the problem with using elite athletes is that they are "elite atheletes". #1 They are not a representation of the normal 85% of the population. they are the freaks off to the right side of the bell curve. Like I say in a lot of my posts, they make gains in spite of their workouts, I truley believe they could be even better with less training. Casey viator, sergio, mentzer had some of the best physiques ever (again, these examples in no one strengthen my arguement) training with high-intensity, low frequency training under the guiding hand of Arthur Jones. what if I was to tell you that the bodies enodcrine system does not normalize after a workout for a minimum of 2 days. That means the protection devices and catabolic horomones that are released during a workout do not subside and return to normal levels does not take place for 48 hours and that is a minimum, other things in life can trigger longer than normal recovery. High stress, a car crash, or a divorce. Obviously steroids can tip the balance in favor of ananbolism but your body is still not functioning at a peak level if your cortisone levels are skyrocketing constatly from an everyday stressor. The body breaks stressors down to two categories- LOCAL and GENERAL. obviously we all know that a local stressor could be the bicep curl that mainly affects the bicep muscles. however the bodies reaction is a general response to that local stressor. General Adaptive syndrome is when the bodies endocrine system becomes taxed and the body goes into a less productive mode (this is what most people identify as the "signs" of over training). the body recovers from local stressors relativley fast but the body as a unit requires more time to get back to a homeostatic level. one of the reasons too that novices will make great progress in their training program no matter what it is because they are virgins to the extreme stresses of training and it takes a few months to build up to the signs of overtraining (that is where most of them think they have "peaked" out in there training when they should be looking at why they have). Most of them at that point become frustrated and either quit or do more volume. they constatly change their program around thinking that they are doing the wrong exercises when the answer is more of a general answer not a question of the exercises.

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                          • #14
                            amazing post juice it didnt bore me one bit and the thing about maxin on bench no lie i have got that at least 5 times this week

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by sana
                              definitely DON'T agree with this one. everyone's goals are different at different phases of their lives.

                              my current goal - to compete in a show in september. i'm in the gym 2x's a day 6 days a week. am i covering up my pathetic life with lifting and exercise?

                              some people need more than 3 or 4 days a week in the gym to grow - or even to maintain.

                              i think just because your goals can be achieved with less time in the gym doesn't mean other people don't have lives outside the gym if they choose to spend an hour a day there.

                              i agree with u in the part of where everyones goals are different. Like I have buddies who have to train everyday to get good results and dont over train. For me its the opposite. I train 4 times a week and 3 days off. If I do more, I lose size and feel overtrained. When i do the 4 days a week workouts, I grow more faster and feel better rested. Im amazed on how my arms grew quickly these past 8 weeks. From 17.5" to 19", basically gained 2 inches on every body part. My chest went from 50" to 52.5". Stomach grew a bit but will lose it soon with diet and cardio. Not to mention the weight went from 210 to 228:). But before when I would train more like 6 times a week and hitting some bodyparts 2 times a week, :( size would go down and I would feel like crap.


                              But yeah theres always something out there that works best for some. It took me a while to discover what works for me well and all, but if i wanna grow more i need to eat more foods and hit the gym heavier and harder.

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