Control, what percentage do you mean by light compared to squats do you mean. For example, say you squat 300 would you do 200 deads? I did what you suggested for lower body and my lower back was pretty damn sore but I was doing squats and romanian deads with close to the same weight.
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how do you feel about bent-over barbell rows?Originally posted by ControlI still do romanian deadlifts (sort of a variation on SLDL's) on leg day, but I don't use much weight. I stopped doing heavy deads on back day for two reasons. One, my lower back can't take squats and deadlifts in the same week. Since I need squats for my legs but I don't need deads for my back (the only two lifts you need for back are pull-ups/downs and cable rows) I choose squats. The other reason is when I did heavy deads I started getting really huge lower traps. It almost made me look like a hunch-back.
I'm with you on the lower back thing, although I once had a 3-day split with squat on one day, and deads on another...more like a powerlifting workout/split, so I guess there was no escaping squatting AND deads in the same week. Nowadays, I do deads once a month or so.
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My heavy set set for squats is 315 right now (that's ass-to-ankles and I'm off cycle) for 15-20 reps. I finish leg day with romanian deadlifts and my heavy set is 185 for 12-15 reps.Originally posted by ROCKILLERControl, what percentage do you mean by light compared to squats do you mean. For example, say you squat 300 would you do 200 deads? I did what you suggested for lower body and my lower back was pretty damn sore but I was doing squats and romanian deads with close to the same weight.
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I honestly feel that seated cable rows, or low pulley rows, or whatever you want to call them are a better exercise for the back than bent-over barbell rows. If you do bent-over barbell rows you can either bend all the way (90 degrees) and put your lower back in jeapordy when going shit-heavy, or bend at a 45 degree angle (which most guys do) and get a good trap workout. Sure you're hitting the lats a little, but the ROM is way shorter than with cable rows.Originally posted by go Yankeeshow do you feel about bent-over barbell rows?
I'm with you on the lower back thing, although I once had a 3-day split with squat on one day, and deads on another...more like a powerlifting workout/split, so I guess there was no escaping squatting AND deads in the same week. Nowadays, I do deads once a month or so.
Don't believe the hype, free weights aren't ALWAYS better than machines/cables.
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nice job! keep at it and you'll be hittin some serious w8t soon.Originally posted by jwoodyI know a lot of you guys on here deadlift atleast 500lbs, but I am so pumped right now. I just did 295-8, 315-6, 335-4, and 355 for 3. That is the heaviest I have gone, and I know you guys can relate to it. Plus none of my friends work out or deadlift. Anyway I had to tell someone. Later
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egor lol,Originally posted by ControlI still do romanian deadlifts (sort of a variation on SLDL's) on leg day, but I don't use much weight. I stopped doing heavy deads on back day for two reasons. One, my lower back can't take squats and deadlifts in the same week. Since I need squats for my legs but I don't need deads for my back (the only two lifts you need for back are pull-ups/downs and cable rows) I choose squats. The other reason is when I did heavy deads I started getting really huge lower traps. It almost made me look like a hunch-back.
i know a lot of guys (bb'lders) who are adimit about not doing heavy deads for that reason you mentioned. Also, I suppose it could give ppl a "blocky" or square thick waist line not exactly ideal for bb'lding. It doesnt bother me right now so I do them both per week. However, I do alternate some weeks with good mornings/bent-rows. As far as the RDL (which isnt even Romanian or a DL IMO) is similar to the stiff-legged variety than the traditional deadlift. Right? Im supprised your a fan of RDLs as a replacement. Maybe I need to give them another try.
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i can deadlift alot of weight i know that like the first tiem i ever did them i was workin with a guy in the gym who always did and was doing 315 reps no problem. the next day my back was fucked up tho.....so it was fucked for about 5 weeks so i couldnt do them or squats to let it heal. now i do like 215 and it still hurts my back. everyone says my form is fine i just dont know what it is....any of you guys get this?
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i thought you had a home gym....Originally posted by BBAddictLOL! I work out at a gold's and, even there, you don't hardly see anybody deadlifting. I don't understand why it's so ignored. The bench press benches are used about 10x more than the deadlift station or the squat racks. Works out great for me! It's funny though to do some different lift and get all the stares and then see people trying it for themselves later.
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I do, but the gym membership costs me about $5/month, so I have it just for some of the different equipment I don't have at home. I've actually started working at Golds more and more because I'm going to have to be moving my home gym so I'm tearing it apart--what a pain!!Originally posted by hurleyi thought you had a home gym....
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Originally posted by NYCmitch25egor lol,
i know a lot of guys (bb'lders) who are adimit about not doing heavy deads for that reason you mentioned. Also, I suppose it could give ppl a "blocky" or square thick waist line not exactly ideal for bb'lding. It doesnt bother me right now so I do them both per week. However, I do alternate some weeks with good mornings/bent-rows. As far as the RDL (which isnt even Romanian or a DL IMO) is similar to the stiff-legged variety than the traditional deadlift. Right? Im supprised your a fan of RDLs as a replacement. Maybe I need to give them another try.
It's like this, but without the shrug at the end:
http://www.webs.uidaho.edu/strength/...n_deadlift.htm
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