Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
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been doing it this way for a while
monday: Chest
Tuesday: Back
Wednesday:shoulders
Thursday:Arms
Friday:legs
i have always trained to failure, i think you have to, to continue to make progress, not saying it always works, but i think the more you stress the muscle the better
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Monday: Chest
Tuesday: Legs
Wednesday: Back
Thursday: Triceps
Friday: Shoulders
Saturday: rest
Sunday: Biceps
I'm able to get away with doing triceps then shoulders on consecutive days because my shoulder workout doesn't include much if any pressing...all isolation, save maybe a few high-rep pump sets on a HammerStrength shoulder press at the very end of the workout once in awhile.
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do you feel that may be hurting your shoulder workout a little? any reason why you dont do any kind of presses?Originally posted by hitmansb
I'm able to get away with doing triceps then shoulders on consecutive days because my shoulder workout doesn't include much if any pressing.
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Years ago, I was getting shoulder soreness off of doing shoulder presses...even dumbell presses. So, I switched things up for awhile and did my front, side, and rear delts using mostly isolation exercises. Not only did I not lose any size in the shoulders...I continued to make gains. Plus, I found that my shoulders got more 'balance'...the front delts didn't feel as overtrained as they used to when I'd start every shoulder workout with four sets of presses. I figure if it ain't broke, dont' fix it...as long as I continue to improve my shoulders, I won't go back to heavy shoulder presses. I don't feel that I'm hurting my shoulder workout at all by excluding heavy presses.Originally posted by THE BOUNCERdo you feel that may be hurting your shoulder workout a little? any reason why you dont do any kind of presses?
I do see where you'd wonder about that...a good friend of mine is firmly convinced his shoulders won't grow unless he does heavy dumbell presses every workout. Don't get me wrong tho, I definately 'built the base' with many years of shoulder pressing.Last edited by hitmansb; 10-04-07, 12:26 AM.
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I really don't even do any direct work for shoulders anymore and mine are fine. Definitely not a lagging bodypart. I might throw in a few sets of raises once in awhile, but that's it. For me presses for chest and rows are all my shoulders need to grow.Originally posted by hitmansbYears ago, I was getting shoulder soreness off of doing shoulder presses...even dumbell presses. So, I switched things up for awhile and did my front, side, and rear delts using mostly isolation exercises. Not only did I not lose any size in the shoulders...I continued to make gains. Plus, I found that my shoulders got more 'balance'...the front delts didn't feel as overtrained as they used to when I'd start every shoulder workout with four sets of presses. I figure if it ain't broke, dont' fix it...as long as I continue to improve my shoulders, I won't go back to heavy shoulder presses. I don't feel that I'm hurting my shoulder workout at all by excluding heavy presses.
I do see where you'd wonder about that...a good friend of mine is firmly convinced his shoulders won't grow unless he does heavy dumbell presses every workout. Don't get me wrong tho, I definately 'built the base' with many years of shoulder pressing.
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