goin catabolic?

[ROCKETW19]

workouts with weights are 4 sets 2 lighter sets and 2 heavyer sets 10-12 rep range
depending on the muscle groupe ill do 3 different things example of legs witch I did today.
standing calf raise 5 sets of 12
140 lbs
180 lbs
220 lbs
240 lbs
240 lbs
squats 5 sets of 12
135 lbs
225 lbs
315 lbs
405 lbs
405 lbs
cybex leg press
490 lbs 19 times
580 lbs 19 times
670 lbs 12 times
760 lbs 12 times
seated 1 leg, leg extensions
100 lbs 12
120 lbs 12
140 lbs 8-12
140 lbs 8-12
work out takes 1 hour give or take a few mins.
kick boxing is fuckin crazy they try and kill you most days. 2 of the trainers work on power/combos with mild cardio compared to the other 2 guys that want you to just die.
they train us like we are getting ready for a fight witch some are. this is serious stuff not no messing round.
they pretty much run you ragged for 3 mins with a 30 sec break then back to 3 mins again and again for 1 hour. example would be throw a 3 punch combo with a leg kick for 2.5 mins as hard and as fast as you can then the last 30secs you just punch the bag as fast as you can rest 30 sec drop down and do crunches roll over to push up back to someother fourm of crunches to push ups. rest 30 sec. 10 leg kicks each side for 2.5 mins 30 secs punch as fast as you can rest 30 secs. then run 5 laps ect ect. typing it here dont seem so bad but belive me it is fuckin insane.

[Stonecold54]

thanks bro!

give me an idea what you do in the gym (frequency, volume, amount of time) and how intense your kickboxing and other fighting sessions are (what is involved and stuff....mostly form or sparring, calistenics, etc...)

[ROCKETW19]

yeah I am cooking a lasagna right now but I will do it tonight

thanks bro!

[Stonecold54]

would you mind writing down a lil something just to give me a Idea to start from?

yeah I am cooking a lasagna right now but I will do it tonight

[ROCKETW19]

. But I will tell you this, i bet (guarantee) that if you reduce your frequency and volume of weight training (but keep the intensity) you will not LOSE anything and in fact will feel better and probably gain better. have more energy for both sports which you love. .

would you mind writing down a lil something just to give me a Idea to start from?

[Stonecold54]

just for fun im not training for a fight.
do you mean do chest tris on monday then wait 2-3 days before back bis?
Im kinda stuck cuzz I love to fight and I love to lift weights. I need to find a happy medium.
I want the body builder look with the fighter conditioning.

hmmm thats tough because fighters are like bodybuilders, they have offseasons and "peak" for a fight. I don't think its possible to keep that type of condition all year round. it inherently brings them to the brink of over-training and hence that is why they only fight 2 to 3 times a year. I guess its just pick and choose what you want. But I will tell you this, i bet (guarantee) that if you reduce your frequency and volume of weight training (but keep the intensity) you will not LOSE anything and in fact will feel better and probably gain better. have more energy for both sports which you love. I think that is a good trade off. I understand the "addiction" side of training and how we all love that feeling but I think focusing on the results sides is even more rewarding. its just a state of mind.

[ROCKETW19]

just for fun im not training for a fight.
do you mean do chest tris on monday then wait 2-3 days before back bis?
Im kinda stuck cuzz I love to fight and I love to lift weights. I need to find a happy medium.
I want the body builder look with the fighter conditioning.

[Stonecold54]

I should of been more specific.
monday I train at 11:00 to 12:00 kick boxing at 4:00 I do chest and tris

tuesday 4:00 I do legs (quads and calfs)

wednessday 11:00 to 12:00 kick boxing at 4:00 I do back and bis

thursday 4:00 I do shoulders, hammys, traps

friday 11:00 to 12:00 kick boxing (sometimes) or

saturday 9:00 to 10:30 gladiator training (mma workout) 11:00 to 12:00 kick boxing.

sunday chill.

friday and saturday are never back to back I pick one or the other depending on how I feel!

so I guess I will ask again are you training for something specifically? do you fight? or is it more hobby type stuff? if you don't have something specific you are training for I would back off on the gym (well either way I would back off on the gym if you you are doing that much "Cardio"). I would place more days in between your weight lifting sessions as well at least 2 to 3.

[ROCKETW19]

used to it, god I hope not. I would avoid it at all cost :). are you training for something specific? two cardio sessions a day and gym time at 4? how many days a week?

I should of been more specific.
monday I train at 11:00 to 12:00 kick boxing at 4:00 I do chest and tris

tuesday 4:00 I do legs (quads and calfs)

wednessday 11:00 to 12:00 kick boxing at 4:00 I do back and bis

thursday 4:00 I do shoulders, hammys, traps

friday 11:00 to 12:00 kick boxing (sometimes) or

saturday 9:00 to 10:30 gladiator training (mma workout) 11:00 to 12:00 kick boxing.

sunday chill.

friday and saturday are never back to back I pick one or the other depending on how I feel!

[Stonecold54]

well at first I was askin about durring but my next question would of been overtraining. I feel alot weaker in my regular workouts witch happen at 4:00pm.
for my first question Im ok as long as I have my shake and eggs. what if I went before eating anything? Im guessing that would eat up muscle?
second question about overtraining, will I just get used to it?

used to it, god I hope not. I would avoid it at all cost :). are you training for something specific? two cardio sessions a day and gym time at 4? how many days a week?

[ROCKETW19]

I guess I don't understand your question....are you using the term to mean long term muscle loss? or like actually DURING your cardio do you believe you are "burning" muscle? if you have carbs and fats in your system then your body won't burn protein. however if you are talking catabolic as in overtraining then that is a whole nother statement.

well at first I was askin about durring but my next question would of been overtraining. I feel alot weaker in my regular workouts witch happen at 4:00pm.
for my first question Im ok as long as I have my shake and eggs. what if I went before eating anything? Im guessing that would eat up muscle?
second question about overtraining, will I just get used to it?

[Bouncer]

I guess I don't understand your question....are you using the term to mean long term muscle loss? or like actually DURING your cardio do you believe you are "burning" muscle? if you have carbs and fats in your system then your body won't burn protein. however if you are talking catabolic as in overtraining then that is a whole nother statement.

yea, i dont know what he is really asking either.

[Stonecold54]

what can I do to try and prevent myself from going catabolic durring super high intence cardio. Is there something I can eat or drink before, or is it just what it is?

I guess I don't understand your question....are you using the term to mean long term muscle loss? or like actually DURING your cardio do you believe you are "burning" muscle? if you have carbs and fats in your system then your body won't burn protein. however if you are talking catabolic as in overtraining then that is a whole nother statement.

[Bouncer]

its only a brief period during the day so i wouldn't worry about it. everyone has periods like that during the day.

[coffee-guy]

That would probably work for me - what is it doing for *you* though? Are you losing muscle with it now or just afraid you might?