Chest - Incline Dumbell Flyes 110lb - BOUNCER

[Mr I]

Yo B,

So today my head wasn't there for legs and I switched to chest, arms still somewhat fatigued from bi's and tri's two days ago but fuck it, once in a while break in routine don't do any harm.

So I started with incline barbell, I was a little off and should have got 2-3 more but what the hell, I actually moved the weight up after this set;

315lb incline barbell press - YouTube

Next excercise, mild incline dumbell flyes 110lb, flame away if you think no good but I know you'll be genuine, I'm no bullshitter though bro, I really felt them in the chest;

110lb incline dumbbell flyes - YouTube

next excercise was smith machine decline press with 315

then seated machine fly press like a flat bench fly press

last excercise cable crossovers bent to 45 and to the mid chest area like a tree hug

[Bouncer]

yea your oddly strong with 90lb curls but 315 incline press for only 6-7 reps isnt insanely strong like the 90lb db curls is.

as for the flys. bro you know damn well what you are doing. lol. your not pulling the weight in with your chest, you are pressing it up. you feel it in your chest because you are doing a chest movement, its called a press just palms facing in.

all that said, you are looking good and strong bro!!

[Mr I]

hmm, well that incline bench is a proper 45 degree plus in angle, whereas most are about 30. Add to that I'd hit tricepts two days before as could be seen from the date of the vids and it had an effect.

On the flys, did you see how wide and deep they went? and I only straightened my arm a little toward the top of the movement because if I kept them bent I'm not sure my tricepts woulda held out and I may have broke my nose lol!

I warmed up with 70's and felt nothing on my chest

thanks for the comp though

[Mr I]

Not that I'm honestly comparing myself but watch this video clip of Dorian chest training and note a couple of things; 1) the angle of the incline barbell press, not near as steep as mine, 2) he's using exactly the same weight as me on dumbell flyes but he's on a steeper incline. In terms of the elbow angle and width of draw I don't think mine are different, if anything wider and a less exagerated straightening of the arm on the return.

Tell me what you think

Training- Dorian Yates (Chest) - YouTube

[Bouncer]

you know what i am talking about bro..

try doing 110db flys like this. not the press/fly that you are doing.

Dumbbell Fly Proper Technique - YouTube

[Mr I]

Thats just crazy bro, my arms don't even bend through the movement as much as Dorian's but there's no way you should keep your arms as straight as possible when your up at 110lb! you need some bend in the elbow or else you'll screw ande strain your elbow. Thats not a good guide vid, in fact the ectomorph has his lower arms almost turned so much hi arm pits are fascing the ceiling, bad form.

Compare my form to that of six times Mr Olympia with the same weight and tell me if mine is better or worse

[Bouncer]

there's no way you should keep your arms as straight as possible when your up at 110lb!

no, you shouldnt keep your arms as straight as possable. there should be a slight bend. but a fly in its strictest sense is to be pulled with the chest. when you keep the weight close to the body and lift it as you are it is more of a push then a pull.

i am not saying it doesnt work and i am not saying i dont do them myself.

but when you tell people "i can fly 110lb db's" its painting a certain picture in peoples mind. i knew exactly what kind of fly you were talking about.

[Mr I]

no, you shouldnt keep your arms as straight as possable. there should be a slight bend. but a fly in its strictest sense is to be pulled with the chest. when you keep the weight close to the body and lift it as you are it is more of a push then a pull.

i am not saying it doesnt work and i am not saying i dont do them myself.

but when you tell people "i can fly 110lb db's" its painting a certain picture in peoples mind. i knew exactly what kind of fly you were talking about.

OK well I'll finish by saying I don't think there was alot of bend in my arms, the dumbells at the bottom of the movement were well outside of my elbow position if you were looking down from the ceiling, well outside! so its not a fly press.

check out your idol doing flyes, he's got about 90's or maybe 100's there, his elbow bends about the same as mine although hehas longer arms and thats on flat. you still hevan't addressed my question about mine compared to Dorian's so i'll give up.

Arnold Schwarzenegger Pumping Iron Dumbbell Fly - YouTube

there's no way you should have straight arms or virtually straight with 110lbs in your hands, it has bicep strain or tendon strain written all over it.

I appreciate your honest take on it though, and with the incline presses is you watch them I piss half the movement but hit a sticking point on each one where the tricepts come into play and we both know why, because I trained them a couple days ago. Never spouted about being strong on here though I'm not saying that.

[Bouncer]

my point is that the movement of the real fly completely changes at that sort of weight. again, i am not putting you down as i do the same thing.

i am arguing details i guess. i can do the same sort of weight for that kind of movement but i have never really consider it a fly in its purest sense.

you are strong with db curls i will give you that. the other movements, not so much. :D

[Mr I]

my point is that the movement of the real fly completely changes at that sort of weight. again, i am not putting you down as i do the same thing.

i am arguing details i guess. i can do the same sort of weight for that kind of movement but i have never really consider it a fly in its purest sense.

you are strong with db curls i will give you that. the other movements, not so much. :D

LOL thanks, not having a cock measuring contest and I'm sure you could do them also. You inclined about 365lb for ten at your best right? thats pretty strong but don't take that vid of me inclining with my tricepts failing as my best strength, I posted that to show you what I done before the flyes. Its funny how you say I'm strong with curls now after slating them the other day lol!

[Bouncer]

i think my max on incline was something like 405 for 1 or 2 when i was eating dbol for lunch, drinking test for dinner, and shooting HGH into my veins at night. lol

dont look like you could even get 1 405 there with your elbows floping around in weakness. :D

j/k its pretty clear you train hard bro. i always argue about nothing so pay no attention. lol

[Bouncer]

P.S. i have hammer curled 100lb dbs but i was cheating like a bitch and the 100lb rubber dbs were so wide i only had to lift em about 4 inches and they touched my shoulder! :lmao:

[Mr I]

P.S. i have hammer curled 100lb dbs but i was cheating like a bitch and the 100lb rubber dbs were so wide i only had to lift em about 4 inches and they touched my shoulder! :lmao:

lol I bet that was after seeing ronnie to them half reps with them :thumup:

[Mr I]

i think my max on incline was something like 405 for 1 or 2 when i was eating dbol for lunch, drinking test for dinner, and shooting HGH into my veins at night. lol

dont look like you could even get 1 405 there with your elbows floping around in weakness. :D

j/k its pretty clear you train hard bro. i always argue about nothing so pay no attention. lol

thats strong for incline, hmm there;s a challenge 405lb for 1-2, not really one for one rep max's but I'll see how I go and maybe give it a shot when my elbows are back

[Bouncer]

I can do more on incline then flat believe it or not.