proviron?

[beefcake]

Maybe Gh would do her some good.

[beefcake]

I know that...But women tend to develop legs better than most men...

Probably because the muscles that attract the most attention on men are the upper body, whereas for women, it's on the lower body. So most people are going to focus the most attention in these areas. Women are always about their ass, and men are usually chest, arms or abs.

[TUFFGUY_67]

You do not know the damage the PROVIRON would cause to her system. It is more androgenic than Test.
Follow the other members advice here on diet & training...
drugs should never be thought of as an easy tool to loose weight.

[ROCKETW19]

red or FB what do you girls think of her diet? is a-var a stupid idea? im thinking 5mgs 2 times a day or maybe just 5 mgs total to see how she reacts. rado i understand what your tryin to say about the back and leg thing but she whats more than just nice legs.

[beefcake]

:dancingne :dancingne

Your avatar goes great with your title dude.

[redsquirrel]

1) 4 egg whites 1 egg
bowl of flax seed cereal
2) iso pure mango whey shake
3) 4-6ozs turky 1cup white rice and brocli(sp?) mixed all together
4) PWO 25gs iso pure whey choclate shake + flax
5) dinner realy depends but usally some sort of chicken
6) also depends but usally flax cereal or cottage chesse+peaches or another shake
snacks on almonds in between meals if she is hungry but pretty much sticks to this diet ED.
training split
chest- tri
legs-abs
back -bis
shoulders -abs
cardio about 4 days a week 30-40mins fast walk only with incline up and down

As for her training split, first off- when does she do legs or back? Secondly, I want to know what KIND of workout she is doing. I mean, is this high rep, max weight, or what exactly? How many reps? Usually when I see a split like that it's not a very intense workout, or something that someone could see some muscle mass gain. My guess is her body has become complacent and that's why she's not seeing any changes. How long has she been doing this w/out?

In regards to her diet, if she is eating this way and wants to put on some mass, she is going to have to eat...just like I said before. She would need to eat even more if she incorporated some AAS into the mix. How tall is she? Does she know her BF? But, if she is wanting to put on mass, it is possible to not gain very much fat and gain muscle. In order to do that, here's what I would suggest:

M1- Add one more whole egg, and 1/2 c. oatmeal. AND 2 oz of lean ground beef
M2-make sure the shake has at least 35gms of protein
M3-switch the white rice for brown rice, and only 3/4c.
PWO- needs to have at least 40 gms of protein in the shake
M4- 5-6 oz chicken, 6oz sweet potato, 1c green veggies
M5- 6 egg white omelet

All in all, she is only eating 5 meals a day. She cannot count the PWO shake because that's absorbed almost instantly So, if she really wants to gain mass, she will need to add another meal, no question.

[ROCKETW19]

As for her training split, first off- when does she do legs or back? Secondly, I want to know what KIND of workout she is doing. I mean, is this high rep, max weight, or what exactly? How many reps? Usually when I see a split like that it's not a very intense workout, or something that someone could see some muscle mass gain. My guess is her body has become complacent and that's why she's not seeing any changes. How long has she been doing this w/out?

In regards to her diet, if she is eating this way and wants to put on some mass, she is going to have to eat...just like I said before. She would need to eat even more if she incorporated some AAS into the mix. How tall is she? Does she know her BF? But, if she is wanting to put on mass, it is possible to not gain very much fat and gain muscle. In order to do that, here's what I would suggest:

M1- Add one more whole egg, and 1/2 c. oatmeal. AND 2 oz of lean ground beef
M2-make sure the shake has at least 35gms of protein
M3-switch the white rice for brown rice, and only 3/4c.
PWO- needs to have at least 40 gms of protein in the shake
M4- 5-6 oz chicken, 6oz sweet potato, 1c green veggies
M5- 6 egg white omelet

All in all, she is only eating 5 meals a day. She cannot count the PWO shake because that's absorbed almost instantly So, if she really wants to gain mass, she will need to add another meal, no question.

ok red thanks for your time. i will have her add a meal 30mins of so after her PWO shake. tuna and noodles shes not gonna like that but ill make her try it.

[redsquirrel]

ok red thanks for your time. i will have her add a meal 30mins of so after her PWO shake. tuna and noodles shes not gonna like that but ill make her try it.

Who said anything about tuna & noodles? She doesn't have to eat tuna if she doesn't like it, and actually noodles or pasta would not be a good choice either.

I still have yet to see HOW she trains. I don't want to see a split, I want to see actual exercises, reps and weight.

Adding another meal will help, but not if she's not utilizing her workouts to the fullest potential.

[ROCKETW19]

Who said anything about tuna & noodles? She doesn't have to eat tuna if she doesn't like it, and actually noodles or pasta would not be a good choice either.

I still have yet to see HOW she trains. I don't want to see a split, I want to see actual exercises, reps and weight.

Adding another meal will help, but not if she's not utilizing her workouts to the fullest potential.

ooops ok!
chest incline d-bells -flys no flat bench she has aftermarket breasts and says it bothers her.
tris kick backs-rope push down-straight bar push down

legs squats-leg press-leg extensions-leg curls-stiff leg dead lifts-abs

back wide grip pull downs-close grip pull downs-seated rows
bis seated alt curls-ez curl bar on lower pully-hammers

shoulders over head presses-up right rows-side raises-back raises-shrugs-abs

this is what shes doing now usally switch it up every 3-4 months rep range would be 8-10 if im there i make he go untill i have to force rep her! if not she drop sets on the last exersize. sets are 3-4 depends on how she feels that day.

[ROCKETW19]

the tuna and noodles meal is actully good tasting! its ramen noodles cook then drain the water, mix in mustard, the chilli powder it comes with, tps low fat mayo and a can of tuna. or sometimes she puts in chicken breast for me. i eat this all the time she eats it sometimes also!

[Shibby]

Rocket she also asked for reps/sets.

[Shibby]

lol, I don't know why but that last part I just looked at like it was his sig.

[ROCKETW19]

Doesn't sound like she has very much variation in her workouts. She does these exact same exercises every time?
If she wants to add mass she needs to drop her reps and increase her weight. I don't do any more than 6 reps if I'm wanting to add mass.

pretty much the same with lil changes. then every 3-4 months the whole thing will change. sometimes sooner realy depends if i get the feelin thats its the same old thing i will change it sooner. me personaly dont like the 6 rep range it dosnt feel like im doin anything 8 feels the best to me! i usally have her do the same work out i do. i realy aprisheate(sp?) your help in this girls!

[redsquirrel]

pretty much the same with lil changes. then every 3-4 months the whole thing will change. sometimes sooner realy depends if i get the feelin thats its the same old thing i will change it sooner. me personaly dont like the 6 rep range it dosnt feel like im doin anything 8 feels the best to me! i usally have her do the same work out i do. i realy aprisheate(sp?) your help in this girls!

Keep in mind, it's very difficult to put a female on the same workout as a male. You simply will not see the same results.

6-8 reps for her at max weight/to failure is what I recommend. I also recommend much less machine work, and more free weights. She needs to change up her workout every 6-8 weeks, NOT keep it for 4 months. I would have her to 1-2 to bodyparts/day. It should look like this:

Mon-Chest- Incline BB, free weight flies, and flat DB. I have aftermarket boobs, and it can be bothersome at first, she just needs to get used to it. She's not doing enough for chest in what she currently does. Abs

Tues-Legs: BB Squat, Lunges, Leg Press, Extensions

Wed- off

Thurs- Arms: Bi''s- BB curl, BB preacher curl, DB seated curl., Tri's- French Press, Dips, Pushdown

Fri- Back: Pull ups, Bent over rows, Pullovers, and Seated Rows.

Sat- Shoulders/Hams: Shoulders: Overhead BB press, front/side raises, reverse flies. Hams: Stiff leff DL w/ DB or BB- HEAVY, and leg curls

[redsquirrel]

the tuna and noodles meal is actully good tasting! its ramen noodles cook then drain the water, mix in mustard, the chilli powder it comes with, tps low fat mayo and a can of tuna. or sometimes she puts in chicken breast for me. i eat this all the time she eats it sometimes also!

This is one of the worst meals I've heard...No offense, but Ramen Noodles are about the least nutritious food you can eat! There is very little nutrition in this meal. If you have to eat this combo, at least get some wheat pasta instead, or eat some brown rice instead.

If this is a sample of what youtwo truly eat, then it's no wonder she's not seeing much definition. Ramen Noodles are not building food.