T3 Question

[Terminator]

Bass you did ban me from FG. Yes but like I said I was leaving anyway. That board has went to nothing. You ask a question and you get 2-3 replies. if your in the womans forum you get flamed for legit questions. Halo and Halo storm are I am sure still on FG. I mean they do do contest and can be good for FG advertising. They said more shit than I did and started the insulting and the threating. They insulted me on the post even. Called my wife names and she knows nothing about this. Yet I bet they are still members. Right? Thats Ok there are many other better boards and I will do my best to inform FG advertisers about the problem.
Sincerely,
Terminator

[Auriflex]

Terminator - honestly, if she's only getting one quality meal a day, that has to be looked at first brother. She's got to get some MRP's at least in there. Right?

[estanozolol]

excellent idea. If she's a bartender, she has everything she needs already. Tell her to take a few MRP packets to work. Drop one in the blender with milk or water. Drink. Can do the whole thing in under a minute. Surely someone can cover for her for a minute or two.

[Terminator]

What is MRP? I have been telling to her about the eating issue and she has agreed to eat better. we went to the grocery store today and got some good stuff for her to eat. I know I said that she only eats one meal per day but I meant one good meal. She does snack on stuff while at work. Just not full meals. She works in a high volume bar 12-14 hrs per day and is on her feet with little time for anything. After she start eating right we will then see about getting some anavar and then do the T3!

[jacques derrida]

my betrothed,

MRP=Meal Replacement Product ie: a meal replacement shake.

your girl DOES NOT NEED aas at this point. please listen to us. aas is for when she hits a plateau in her training, after exhausting natural routes, and proper training/nutrition. generally this takes A FEW YEARS.

since you probably aren't aware, T3 is what is given to people who are hypothyroid.. symptoms of which are extreme sleepiness, weight gain, etc.

people with hypothyroidism are GRADUALLY given a bit of synthroid (or whatever brand they are using) at a time to see how much it takes the TSH down. every few months, bloodwork is checked to see if the dosage has been enough to get the tsh between 1-2.

my point is T3 is not candy. if you take too much, you lose muscle because you become hyperthyroid. this is the full list of symptoms that can occur:

Nervousness and irritability
Increased resting heart rate causing palpitations
Hypertension (high blood pressure)
Heat intolerance and increased sweating
Tremor
Weight loss or alterations in appetite
Frequent bowel movements
Sudden paralysis
Thyroid enlargement (lump in the neck)
Thin, delicate skin and irregular fingernail and hair growth
Menstrual disturbance (decreased flow)
Impaired fertility
Mental disturbances
Sleep disturbances (including insomnia)
Changes in vision, eye irritation, or exophthalmos: significant

also, "overtreating hypothyroidism" can cause osteoporosis, or bone loss.

taking T3 on one's own scares me, frankly, because i know personally how sensitive the thyroid gland is. it's not something you want to muck up.

the point, my love, is that you are confusing research with starting a thread because you haven't bothered to look something up in the search function - which is what estanozol said.

XOXO

signed,

your very north american "austrian"

ps - thank you for the pm. it changed my life.

[redsquirrel]

Way to clean it up, there Jacques!! You have given sound advice. Again, T- your wife doesn't need to be doing ANY AAS for quite sometime. She needs to eat more, plain and simple. T3 will only burn what little muscle she has. And, as jacques said could have a serious adverse effect if not used properly.You don't know how her thyroid is going to react. I have no desire to use T3 until showtime next year. IMO, there is no reason to run the risk of weight gain, and/or muscle eating, when the vanity weight can be lost through proper training and diet.

[Terminator]

Originally posted by jacques derrida
my betrothed,

the point, my love, is that you are confusing research with starting a thread because you haven't bothered to look something up in the search function - which is what estanozol said.

Once again thanks for the advice but dont tell me what I am and am not doing. Yes I tried to do a "search" but like I said in earlier post I tried to search and It would not let me search for 2 character words. Someone has since informed me how to do that.

Some people like myself and my wife have to work for a living and have a life where we dont have time to sit the internet all day.
If I wasnt doing research then I would have just gone ahead and ordered some t3 and just givin it to her. Right? I DIDNT DO IT. CAN YOU UNDERSTAND? I WAS DOING RESEARCH BY POSTING ABOUT SOMETHING i COULDNT FIND INFO ON. i HAVE 2 FRIENDS INTERESTED IN DOING T3 ALSO AND THEY TRIED DOING RESEARCH AND ALSO CAME UP WITH NOTHING more than what I had before these post. I have since showed them these post and they are as confused as i am. They said that from all the info they read about they didnt uderstand what your problem is?
One of these people is very well educated in health and fitness. He is working on his master in Health and Sports Sciences from the Oklahoma State Univ. has even worked out for around 18 years now and has done many cycles and he just recently found out about T3 himself. He tried to research also and is in the same boat i am. I post all the time shit like this in the mens forums. Hell I had 280 post at FG in the regular anabolic forum and not once have I got treated as I have in these womans forums. I even got a few PMs this week from people that understand what I am saying and doing and that they dont post on these forumns because of people like yourself. Know it alls with bad attitudes that dont listen to what people are trying to educate them selves on!

[redsquirrel]

T- Jacques has very tastefully tried to point out to you in his last reply that your wife is not ready for T3, or any other AAs for that matter. He has given you and your friends some very valuable information about T3, which you should use to your advantage.

There area several posts about this a couple pages back in the womens forum.You could have sifted through those without having to do a search, which I think that is the point he has been trying to make.

In his defense, I will say so many people post threads about something that has been covered very recently. Also, I willsay his information is very valuable, and however offended you may be, it is IMPERATIVE you take what he says to heart. Don't reject it out of spite.

In your defense, I can understand you getting frustrated from not being able to search for T3. And some of his tones could have been construed rudely...a little more constructiveness would have been appreciated.

Now, I'm not saying this to be rude, bt here is a perfect example of why you and your wife should not be messing around with anything right now. If neither of you know what an MRP is, it sounds like you need to have your diets reevaluated. The BIGGEST part of this game is diet. Hell, it's 90%. And if your diet is not in check, AAS is completely useless. Youwill not make the gains that are possible through proper eating, and you will not lose the BF to cut without losing muscle. This is a lifestyle change. This is not something you decide to do for 3 mos. You have to have discipline and determination because this lifestyle is not easy, nor is it for everyone. I work 40-50 hrs a week, but I make
time to cook my meals for the week, hit the weights 4-5 times a week, and do cardio 3 times a week...NOT whenI'm at the gym.

I understand your frustration with trying to help your wife. BUt what needs to happen first, is she needs to get in a routine. SHe has to plan out her day and MAKE TIME to eat her meals. Then have her weight training 4-5 times a week. She needs to put on more muscle, period. The cardio she is doing is only burning muscle because she does not eat enough.Have her do that for a month to make sure she can do it. You don't want to go messing around with something as T3 and do more harm than good. You'll be very surprised the gains she will make once her diet in in check.

[Terminator]

Well let me tell you my wifes diet and workout may not be in check but I guarantee you mine is. I weighed 145 at 6 foot when I graduated highschool. I then started to lift after graduating. That was 14 years ago. I got to 165 -170 naturally. People used to accuse me of doing roids even when I didnt. I used to hate juicers. I couldnt stand them. I started racing Motocross a few years ago and quit lifting. I then had several major accidents while racing and completely destroyed both knees. Had to have full reconstruction of them. I then broke my foot, collarbone and both wrist. My weight then dropped back down to 145# from all the painpills and not working out. Then a year and a half ago I started lifting again and I am now at 210#. So in your last post when you say " Now, I'm not saying this to be rude, bt here is a perfect example of why you and your wife should not be messing around with anything right now. If neither of you know what an MRP is, it sounds like you need to have your diets reevaluated." I dont think so. Mine is perfectly fine. I have very little body fat and get complements on my body everywhere I go. And yes her diet might not be right but we are going to work on that like I said!

[redsquirrel]

I never said your body wasn't fine. BUT, what some people think is a good diet, in all actuality is not good for this kind of lifestyle. Have you ever had your BF checked? Because, sooooo many people THINK their BF is low, and it truly isn't as low as they may think.

I'll say it again, if you don't know what an MRP is, then you need to reevaluate your diet. MRP's are a huge component in this game. They are extremely valuable. It sounds like you don't know the value of them, which is why I made the comment.

These boards are for constructive criticism and advice. It is seeming more and more like all you want to do is get in a pissing contest instead of taking people's advice in order to help you and your wife.

I know what it's like to get kicked by all of the other mods on a board. It happened to me at FG. BUt, I think in the beginning we were all trying ot help you, and you take it as insult or personal attacks; instead of using what we say to your benefit.

I'm sorry you've had some health problems. But, 170 @ 6ft, is not that big. Hell, 210 isn't that big...My husband is 5'71/2 and 220, @ 10% BF.....if you want to start throwing stats around.

If you are going to work on her diet, then ask diet questions, not T3 or AAS related questions when she has no business doing them.

[estanozolol]

Originally posted by redsquirrel
I know what it's like to get kicked by all of the other mods on a board. It happened to me at FG.

I'm sorry to hear that:( We're nice now. I promise:D

Terminator, red and the others are trying to help. They (and I) are trying to tell you what would be absolutely best for your wife. I've not done T3 personally (yet), but I do know enough to agree that it is not what your wife is looking for. This lifestyle is not only chosen by those that have time on their hands. Like red said (heh heh that rhymed:D), many of of work full time or attend school yet we all find the time to workout and many of us eat crazy strict diets. It's a matter of desire and willpower. For example: I'm a grad student studying psychology. I see patients during the day. I get like 5 minutes between them. I'll take a couple of MRPs with me to the clinic along with a cocktail shaker. It takes no time at all. I'm working AND going to school yet I find the time to eat every 2 hours. It can be done my friend. Best of luck to your wife.

[redsquirrel]

Thanks so much, E...Don't know if I'll be back to FG...I said my peace to the female mods over there, and I would probably be headed for disaster if I showed back up. I have a different philosophy than the other females on diet and cycles, and that wasn't appreciated or respected.

T- Our main concern here is the safety of your wife and her body. I think in the midst of you ranting about thinking you were getting flamed you lost site of that.You yourself said in the very 1st post the you ARE getting some T3 for you and your wife, and wanted to know how to run it..Then you start asking about WInny, Anavar, Clen and how to run/stack, etc...so jacques accusations were not so far fetched.

This issue at hand is how to get your wife in better shape without the use of AAS. If you want help all of us ladies have extensive knowledge on dieting. Also,you said before she has been working out for 10 years. Well, IMO, she needs a complete workout overaul as well. Apparently what used to work, isn't working anymore. This whole he said, she said crap is tiresome. If you don't think you're going to like what you hear, don't ask. Also, as I looked through the 1ST page of this forum, there is a thread titled " T3 Personal Experiences only" which you could have initially reverted to for info. Instead, we get in a huge argument and loose sight of what was important. Several of us were trying to not lose focus of your original question, but you took it as flaming. I'm sorry you can't see these boards for their educational ability.

[sana]

Originally posted by Terminator
After she start eating right we will then see about getting some anavar and then do the T3!

you seem to still be missing the point of the advice being given to you. not only are we saying that T3 is not the answer to her desire to change her bf% and increase lean muscle mass, she is not ready for an any AAS. there are a few things that you need to evaluate and educate your wife on if you do wish to go down this path.

first, you need to examine her diet - not diet as in "restricting calories to lose weight" but "DIET" as in "nutrition". working with the macronutrient ratios to ensure she's getting enough protein (which most likely she's not) to build muscle. looking at the numbers of calories taken in currently and most likely increasing that so that her body does not think that it is in a starvation mode and does not try to hold on the the fat that she is trying to lose. i believe you've gotten this point sufficiently, so i'm not going to beat the issue to death.

second, you and her need to sit down and look at her work outs. what are her real goals? from what you said in your first post it is obvious that she wants to changer her body composition. this can only be accomplished by putting on muscle. so in doing too much cardio, she is defeating what ever little time she is spending over in the weight area because the cardio is burning up the precious muscle. it will be a drastic change but have her stop doing her cardio and work up a body part per day work out for her. the issue obviously isn't having the time to get into the gym, it's doing the right things in the gym to give her the most positive effects. and as she'd like to put on lean muscle, there are two simple things that she is not doing right now. 1. eat enough protein, 2. weight training.

third, you must remember that AAS stands for ANDROGENIC Anabolic Steroids. this means that it's effects on women are SIGNIFICANTLY different than on men. it's sides on women can be severe if one does not understand what the compounds are they are putting into their body. before "seeing about getting some anavar then doing the T3" i would recommend that you and your wife discuss and understand all the POTENTIAL sides associated with putting an androgen into her body. sides effects can be severe and irreversible. please read the sticky up at the top of the forum as a reminder of what AAS can and CANNOT do for women. most importantly - i will repeat here - AAS WILL NOT BURN FAT.

again, i believe what i write will be echoed by everyone else here. there are so many more things that can be done to help your wife accomplish her body composition changes without outside "aids" that you should thoroughly explore those options before looking at a thyroid medicine which: 1. may burn up whatever little muscle she has already, and 2.when administered incorrectly can have severe consequences on her future thyroid function.

[sana]

and FYI - in the future, if you decide to so quickly lash out and call a fellow member "a dumb cunt" i will see to it that you are banned. we do not like to foster a hostile environment here and in re-reading what was written to you, though the remarks may have been percieved by you as being somewhat rude - they did not deserve for you to call ANYONE a cunt.

again - watch your language.

[redsquirrel]

Originally posted by sana
and FYI - in the future, if you decide to so quickly lash out and call a fellow member "a dumb cunt" i will see to it that you are banned. we do not like to foster a hostile environment here and in re-reading what was written to you, though the remarks may have been percieved by you as being somewhat rude - they did not deserve for you to call ANYONE a cunt.

again - watch your language.

Nicely put, sana....When I was reading through this thread the first time, I saw that and thought I was somewhere else.

We don't do that here. If you want to have it out with someone in that manner, do so through PM's not on open forum.