Im comming clean.

[Bouncer]

A little over a month ago I made a post about comming off steroids. Well im ashamed to say that I only lasted about a month and went back on. I kept this from everyone on the board and I kept it from sana. I finally made up my mind that my body needs a rest and I am being stupid to stay on for so long. Sana yelled at me for awhile last night and I finally got it. Im comming off test and I decided to stop the GH about 5 days ago. Havent used slin in about a month. I am going totally clean. I thought I could do it before but it really got tough. Anyone that thinks steroids arent addictive are very wrong.

Now I need your help, I have never run clomid before. Keep in miond that I have been on test non stop now for about a year and half- 2 years. What dose and how long should I run the clomid for after being on that long? Also, start taking clomid 3 weeks after the last test shot correct? Thanks

[Stonecold54]

use novaldex instead or a combo of clomid/novaldex. I would run it for 4 weeks. and some HCG if you got small nuts. and I agree on the addictive part. I was happy I was able to stay off three months. but I kept all my size but mentally I was still a little sluggish.

[Bouncer]

Originally posted by stonecold54
use novaldex instead or a combo of clomid/novaldex. I would run it for 4 weeks. and some HCG if you got small nuts. and I agree on the addictive part. I was happy I was able to stay off three months. but I kept all my size but mentally I was still a little sluggish.

I have nolvadex and clomid. How long after my last shot of test should I start them and at what dose? SHould I start the nolv and clomid at the same time? Let me know.

[INTIMID8OR]

Three weeks after your last shot of test start clomid @40mgs a day with 20mgs of nolva and 25mgs of proviron ...
Novaldex: 20mg/day) -will keep estrogen from
binding to the HPTA

Provirion - 25- ED .......
Acts like an anti-e since it's a DHT and doesn't
aromatize
- To help keep estrogen levels in check
- It does not lower FSH (like Clomid)
-- It is not site specific, removing estrogen
throughout the body


I'd also run this for 5 weeks ...

PS ..I hope sana kicks your ass...

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by INTIMID8OR
Three weeks after your last shot of test start clomid @40mgs a day with 20mgs of nolva and 25mgs of proviron ...
Novaldex: 20mg/day) -will keep estrogen from
binding to the HPTA

Provirion - 25- ED .......
Acts like an anti-e since it's a DHT and doesn't
aromatize
- To help keep estrogen levels in check
- It does not lower FSH (like Clomid)
-- It is not site specific, removing estrogen
throughout the body


I'd also run this for 5 weeks ...

PS ..I hope sana kicks your ass...

yeah I like this. also I like avena sativa along with proviron, they act in the same way to increase free test to make you feel at least normal. until your body takes over. When I came off my year and a half cycle I felt about normal in 5-6 weeks. I used combo of novaldex and clomid.

[CreepingDeath]

good luck man you can pull thorugh it, longest Ive been off now is like a month but damn it still kills me. Feels good though to know Im clean....somewhat lol

[Stonecold54]

at first I thought bouncer was coming out of the closet :ghey: with a title like "I am coming clean" LOL

[sana]

jerkwad. i am confiscating all your gear and all your pins this time around.

[Timma]

Originally posted by sana
jerkwad. i am confiscating all your gear and all your pins this time around.

Oh shit! :eek: You can send it to me for safe keeping if you like.

[psyko1]

Re: Im comming clean.

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
What dose and how long should I run the clomid for after being on that long? Also, start taking clomid 3 weeks after the last test shot correct? Thanks

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2 years? damn, goodluck going clean bro. i'm sure it'll suck for a while but just like with everything else you do, your body needs a rest.

[spidey]

It kind of depends on what ester you were running as to when you should start PCT. I will assume cyp or enanthate in which case, 3 weeks is right. If you were only on prop, then 3 to 4 days is right.

Personally, I hate clomid because it turns me into an emotional train wreck. It does work though so if you can handle it, go for it.

I would use 500 IU's HCG a day for a week or two with 20mg ed nolva to get your boys back to size and producing test. Then, stop the HCG; up the nolva to 40 mg ed and take 50 mg ed clomid for 2 or 3 weeks. Stop the Clomid and take the 40 mg nolva for another week and then 20 mg nolva for another week. Stop everything and see how you feel after a week of nothing. You won't have the same sex drive without all the exogenous test but you shouldn't be dead in the water either. After 3 weeks of nothing, go get your test levels measured. If they are in the normal range, all is well. If not, you could begin another round of PCT and that may or may not do the trick.

[ROCKETW19]

wow 2 years good luck brother! i use the same PCT that intim8or gave you but after 2 years i would use HCG like spidey said. good luck.

[6p6]

good luck....I've just started back up after 4 months off (1 year on before that) and it just about killed me! Creatine is your friend now bro!!!

[hitmansb]

Bouncer....this is what I'd do if I were you: It's an extended and slightly beefed-up variation of the PCT regimen I usually recommend, to account for how long you've been on. This assumes HCG reconstituted to a strength of 500iu/mL, 20mg tabs Nolvadex, 50mg tabs Clomid

Day 1: 1mL HCG, 2 tabs Nolvadex
Day 2: 1mL HCG, 2 tabs Nolvadex
Day 3: 1mL HCG, 2 tabs Nolvadex
Day 4: 1mL HCG, 2 tabs Nolvadex
Day 5: 1mL HCG, 2 tabs Nolvadex
Day 6: 1mL HCG, 2 tabs Nolvadex
Day 7: 1mL HCG, 2 tabs Nolvadex
Day 8: 1mL HCG, 2 tabs Nolvadex
Day 9: 1mL HCG, 2 tabs Nolvadex
Day 10: 1mL HCG, 2 tabs Nolvadex
Day 11: 2 tabs Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 12: 2 tabs Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 13: 2 tabs Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 14: 2 tabs Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 15: 2 tabs Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 16: 2 tabs Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 17: 1 tab Nolvadex, 2 tabs Clomid
Day 18: 1 tab Nolvadex, 2 tab Clomid
Day 19: 1 tab Nolvadex, 2 tab Clomid
Day 20: 1 tab Nolvadex, 2 tab Clomid
Day 21: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 22: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 23: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 24: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 25: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 26: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 27: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 28: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 29: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 30: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1 tab Clomid
Day 31: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 32: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 33: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 34: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 35: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 36: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 37: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 38: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 39: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid
Day 40: 1 tab Nolvadex, 1/2 tab Clomid

Continue to run Nolvadex at 1 tab/day for two weeks after ceasing Clomid. The clomid should be run 3 weeks after last test shot...so start this PCT regimen ten days earlier than that to get in the HCG days.

[pudgy]

These are the kinda of posts that need to be made by vets like Bouncer. Reading this may save some neewbie from hurting himself or doing something stupid. Very brave my friend.