Im comming clean.

[Bouncer]

Well today was a shit day.

I woke up yesterday morning with a sore throat. It has now turned into a bad cough with lots of snot in my throat. I went to the gym today to train legs and walked out 2 minutes later because I felt like such shit. It has been raining hard all day here in New Jersey and the temp is about 30 degress right now. Im sitting here all wraped up in a fleece jacket and big sox feeling like a piece of crap. I sure hope this feeling goes away soon.

Thats my great day..

[Stonecold54]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
Well today was a shit day.

I woke up yesterday morning with a sore throat. It has now turned into a bad cough with lots of snot in my throat. I went to the gym today to train legs and walked out 2 minutes later because I felt like such shit. It has been raining hard all day here in New Jersey and the temp is about 30 degress right now. Im sitting here all wraped up in a fleece jacket and big sox feeling like a piece of crap. I sure hope this feeling goes away soon.

Thats my great day..

I have dreaded waking up the past week. Every morning I have about 3 pounds of hardened green phlem I have to choke up so I can spit it out. It is disgusting and I have felt about the same as you bouncer. But we have snow and not rain, LOL.

[spidey]

Originally posted by Akamai
Thanks bro it does look promising for the groups looked at and there sperm count as well free and bound test. which is why we use proviron for SBGH. But doesnt have much correlattion to the supraphsiological dose of exogenous androgens we are looking at . IT shows that it those with elevated FSH and LH were supressed. That is in fact suppresion at that dose.

My question is here is did it infact not hinder the return to normal tesosterone production in a male using large amount of androgens for an extended period of time. Although this study doesnt address this.

I do think other inferences are very useful. .

Thanks brother good read.

I don't want to hijack this thread anymore so I won't argue with you. I'll just agree to disagree with your analysis .

I notice in your signature that you may know where to get R-ALA at a good price. Fill me in on that. My normal supplier just discontinued R-ALA powder and I would like to find another source for bulk R-ALA. Does this place sell bulk powder or just caps? How is it analyzed for enantiomeric purity?

[spidey]

Originally posted by THE BOUNCER
Well today was a shit day.

I woke up yesterday morning with a sore throat. It has now turned into a bad cough with lots of snot in my throat. I went to the gym today to train legs and walked out 2 minutes later because I felt like such shit. It has been raining hard all day here in New Jersey and the temp is about 30 degress right now. Im sitting here all wraped up in a fleece jacket and big sox feeling like a piece of crap. I sure hope this feeling goes away soon.

Thats my great day..

Hang in there man. You're doing good. Once this blows over, you will be back on top.

[Akamai]

Spidy Ill PM

[AlmostThere]

Originally posted by Akamai
[My question is here is did it infact not hinder the return to normal tesosterone production in a male using large amount of androgens for an extended period of time. Although this study doesnt address this.

I do think other inferences are very useful. .

Thanks brother good read. [/B]

I agree the paper and pencil studies dont address those issues and im sure there are none out there that do and probably never will be. What i can tell you is those with real word exp using proviron during PCT swear by it. The feelings of well being and being able to get wood would be worth it by themselves. The fact that it could fight gyno in those using high doses of HCG post cycle is just icing on the cake. Lets just say theres some pretty smart guys out there with PH.Ds behind their names that recomend using it during PCT.

Sorry about hyjacking your thread Bouncer. Btw sounds like you may need some time off to let your body rest and recuperate. I like to take a couple weeks off after a long cycle just to get my bearings again.

[Akamai]

Im sure Bouncer will agree, thats what threads like this are all about.

Im not disputing that there are benefits at all, just that its use at this time may prolong the process.

Those using high doses of hcg should post cycle shouldnt be anyway.

No being argumentative, but point toward these PHD,s I would like to read about these methods. Been at this for a long time but there is always room to learn.

What really suprized me was there were no adverse effects on the liver profiles. That is nice to know.

[Cmsmallzz]

Originally posted by AlmostThere
Sorry about hyjacking your thread Bouncer. Btw sounds like you may need some time off to let your body rest and recuperate. I like to take a couple weeks off after a long cycle just to get my bearings again.

Good point Bro...I always like to take 2 weeks or so off after every cycle. It's funny but I feel like I can keep my gains better that way. I think a lot of people begin to try to work out harder when they come off and feel like they are losing size, when in fact working out harder only releases more cortisol and robs you of more gains. What would seem logical to do is only counterproductive!

[BAiley]

here here...I agree...Body needs time to recover ....I used to over do it so much....never gave in to it..But now, I am damn glad I did..listen to your body...