New cycle Idea.. (M1T, 4derm, and clen)

[therock]

Say bro you need to learn how to read diplo. I never said anything about mass. I was just talking about strength, and trust me I know a lot when it comes to strength. Unlike you! You can stay with your panzy 95lb dumbells on flat bench and I will stick to my 130s. Oh, and mine are for reps of 10-12 dawg!!:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[diplomats]

HA HA HA

Very fuckin funny. Look dawg we are cool and everything, but i do not appreciate you putting my business on the forum like that.

First of all why didnt you try training long enough before you jumped on roids. what was it like 3 months of training natural before you decided to juice. what a pitty!!!!

i have been training for 3 years on and off and i have gained 50 pounds mostly muscle and some water. BUT I DID IT WITHOUT ***STERIODS** just through good nutrition, smart training,rest. these are things you do not know SHit about.

Yeah i do not bench over 120 pounds dumbell. but guess what i dont GIVE A FLYING FUCK. i will stick with my 95 pound dumbell and keep on BUILDING MUSCLE the only way i know how too**NATURALLY**i could only imagine what would happen if i do decide to do steriods someday. but thanks dont need to i like my nornal blood pressure, and ability to control my rage unlike somebody.

cant believe the nerve of this guy. look dawg i already told you that you might be strong on the bench i dont care. but come and test me on back, biceps,triceps,shoulder workout then you will see what NATURAL GENETICS IS ALL ABOUT and not no drug INFESTED GENETIC, MARKUS RUHL WANNABE you.

shit i dont want to be on this forum flaming anybody. all i was doing was giving MATT76 a safer alternative. at his age he sould not be looking to do any steriods. sure M1T is a steriod but it is a legal steriod and he has already experienced with it so i can not control that. therock is pushing him to go the illegal route which is not cool

ROCK i would appreciate you do not put my buisiness on the street like that hommie.

i do not wish to put any of your business on this forum sp please dont make me!!!!!!!!!!!!and you suppose to be my dawg, shit

:mad: :mad: :madfu: :madfu: :madfu: :madfu: :madfu: :madfu: :mad:

[diplomats]

oh i fogot to add

try to address the weak points on you physique and stop getting all hyped about your strength. nobody cares how strong you are, but they will judge you by how good you physique looks like. for example you contest judges!!;)

[therock]

To stay on topic I am not going to continue this argument that was suppose to be a friendly joke. But I will close it by saying one thing. If you are so natural buddy then why are you raging and getting so pissed over something that was simply a joke bro? I am not trying to push you MATT76 to do any AAS. In fact to inform you on something, Anavar is weaker then M1T and is not even that androgenic. It was made for young people to begin with. If you need anymore advice bro just ask us and we will stop playing around your thread. I applologize to you Matt76 for all this mess.

[Matt76]

hey man it's no big deal. Just glad to get some suggestions

[diplomats]

MY BAD

first off, i kind of got out of hand understand, i was kind of mad, i mead you do not put peoples business on the forum like that. I would'nt have done something like that.

I say that i am natural because i am proud of it, i am proud to have been able to accomplished this much without the use of steriods, thesame way you are proud about you strength.

we are suppose to be friends but at times you need to control how you talk, because this is thesame thing that you always do too stephan. sure its a joke but you should joke saying other things. Its not a very good thing to judge another bodybuilder because it hurts their accomplishment.

i appologise matt76 the rock is just RETARDED :rofl:
do the anavar but if you cannot find any try STS-646 or METHYL-RAGE.

say therock holla at your boy men!!!!!!!!!u arrogant bastard. just jokeing..............

[therock]

Thats why I love you bro! Cause you are just like me. You like to talk shit but dont like it when someone talks shit about you. I wasnt trying to put anything outhere bro. Oh did you start taking the M1T? I heard the UG Labs that you have is pretty strong. Hey you got a digital camara? I want to take pics and post them on the site. Also Mat76 reply back bro. We need to hear what you are planning to do. In order to help you more we need updates bro.

[Matt76]

Well guys I think this is what i'm going to do

M1T weeks 1-6
4derm weeks 1-6
clen 20mcg and work up weeks 1-4
T-3 100mcgs weeks 1-4

I have talked to many people and they think that I should try to take the M1T for a longer cycle. Also most of them agree that clen is useless after 12days unless if you add t3 in there.

[diplomats]

M1T

dude M1T for a 6week cycle!!!men i dunno know about that as, m1t shuts you down within a couple of weeks. 6 week will be way too hard on the liver. Plus the gains taper down after 3 weeks. if you still want to go ahead to do it make sure that you have a lot of liver protection. BE VERY CAREFUL M1T IS A VERY HARSH COMPOUND. let therock tell you what he thinks i am sure he would not suggest this.

therock we are still dawgs men. your shoulder is fucking INSANE a hell i need too know what the hell you are doing to get them that broad dawg. just like markus ruhl you are getting closer, 10 more years of lifting,eating,ect you just might get there ;)

ps

i need too know what your shoulder workout looks like. Yes i have a digital camera. we might have to make time to train together so we can take pumped pictures to post in the board.

Holla at your boy

diplo

[Matt76]

yeah I figured some ppl would say 6weeks is too long. However, I know a few of ppl who have ran it for a few months and they made great gains

[diplomats]

well they might have made great gains but how is their liver levles? is it normal?i am sure you would not know because they did not do any tests on their liver values. look i am not saying do not do the m1t all i am say is that be very cautious about it. i still think that 6 weeks is too long but if you insist on doing it, just make sure that you are running alot of liver protectant alongside, and drink alot of water 1 to 2 gallons a day. what are you planning for your post-cycle?make sure you include milk thisle along with what ever you are planning for you pct.


sup therock what were u at hommie.

holla

[Matt76]

i'll prolly just run nolva again for PCT seeing how it is doing great right now and some tribulus

Also milk thistle for the whole cycle.

[therock]

Ok here is the deal. I like your cycle that you have made. But the onlything wrong with it is you have to do 2weeks on and 2weeks off on clen. Whoever tells you otherwise is pretty much dumb. The reason why you say its useless after 12-14days is because your body gets use to it and thats why you get off for 2weeks then get back on bro. Trust me on this and ask anyone else on this forum. Also running the m1t for 6wks is the same as running dbol for 6wks. I would back it up to 5wks bro. You dont want to mess with your liver. Without it you die! Do your nolva for pct. If you listen then you will make great gains. If you do clen straight for more then 2wks you are just waisting it bro. Good luck and let me know what you decide to do.

[Matt76]

alright man but I was told that if I ran the T3 with the clen it would keep it effective. Was that just a line of bs??

[Primal Instinct]

Matt76,

I would advise you to get bloodwork done before you start a cycle of M1T. Then go back and get it done again 6 weeks later. You need to establish a baseline value before starting to make a valid comparison to your values afterwards/during. You can better determine any damage that you may be causing to your liver. Without that starting baseline, you have no idea what is happening in your system. You most likely already know this but just in case- don't drink while on-cycle and try to watch your blood pressure & your cholesterol intake, as M1T will elevate both. Be safe.