Proviron. Why is this not talked about more?

[The Iron Bull]

LOL....like I said Bro....I didnt have a fraking clue what I was thinking about at the time.....more like I wasnt :)

And yes Stone, i have seen both - Domestic and International.

Its a tad bit more expensive then DP, but its not rare Bro ;)

[vicmack777]

They are saying that Proviron is Mesterone and Masteron is Drostanolone Propionate. That they are two totally different compounds. Are they wrong?

[Bouncer]

They are saying that Proviron is Mesterone and Masteron is Drostanolone Propionate. That they are two totally different compounds. Are they wrong?

Dont post links.

You are confusing, Mesterolone which is proviron and Masteron.

[vicmack777]

Dont post links.

You are confusing, Mesterolone which is proviron and Masteron.

Ok bro, my bad. I certainly wasnt advertising though. Did you read the thread at all?

They are telling me over there that Masteron isnt the same thing as Proviron.

[vicmack777]

Dont post links.

You are confusing, Mesterolone which is proviron and Masteron.

Whats so confusing about what I posted. They are saying they are two totally different things.

[Bouncer]

read these 2 profiles.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catmast.htm

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catprov.htm

"Mesterolone is an orally active, 1-methylated DHT. Like Masteron, but then actually delivered in an oral fashion. DHT is the conversion product of testosterone at the 5-alpha-reductase enzyme, the result being a hormone that is 3 to 4 times as androgenic."

[Bouncer]

Since we are on DHT and gyno.....a little advise for people who use DHT derivative steroids. NEVER use Tamoxifen Citrate (Nolva) while you are using.

Tamoxifen Citrate can actually increases expression of progesterone receptor (prolactin gyno).

Well I started my test/proviron cycle and within about 2 weeks both nips became sensitive. I guess I am prone to gyno. Anyway, I started running nolvadex at 20mg ED about 5 days ago. Both nips are still sensitive. The post that I quoted above has me wondering. Since proviron is DHT derived and I am running nolvadex, am I in danger of making this worse by adding the nolv? Maybe I am misunderstanding something here.

I am confused because both rocket and beefcake seem to agree at the top of this page that nolv is fine to run along with proviron.

thanks

[ROCKETW19]

masteron has less progestron activity than test. test converts to DHT so why cant you use nolva with test? i agree no nolva with tren (progestrone) but there is none in masteron or proviron. you can use nolva and proviron together, its just like l-dex and nolva but not as strong.
bouncer give the nolva a lil more time you are in no harm here. how much test are you using? are you really sensitive to gyno? remember proviron is a week anti-e no where near l-dex.

[Bouncer]

masteron has less progestron activity than test. test converts to DHT so why cant you use nolva with test? i agree no nolva with tren (progestrone) but there is none in masteron or proviron. you can use nolva and proviron together, its just like l-dex and nolva but not as strong.
bouncer give the nolva a lil more time you are in no harm here. how much test are you using? are you really sensitive to gyno? remember proviron is a week anti-e no where near l-dex.

Ya, that is what I had always heard and read but when Iron Bull made the statement about DHT derived steroids such as proviron and nolvl it got me worried. running 750mgs a week of test with 50mgs a day of proviron. started 20mgs ED of nolv 5 days ago.

[ROCKETW19]

Ya, that is what I had always heard and read but when Iron Bull made the statement about DHT derived steroids such as proviron and nolvl it got me worried. running 750mgs a week of test with 50mgs a day of proviron. started 20mgs ED of nolv 5 days ago.

i had the opportunity to chat with ironbull at IM he is a great guy with knowldge i think he or we are misunderstanding him. (lol i do that) you are good to go im gonna do the exact same cycle any day now, i think you need to give the nolva a few more days. plus you are gonna be over paranoid about it now.

[Bouncer]

i had the opportunity to chat with ironbull at IM he is a great guy with knowldge i think he or we are misunderstanding him. (lol i do that) you are good to go im gonna do the exact same cycle any day now, i think you need to give the nolva a few more days. plus you are gonna be over paranoid about it now.

i will give the nolv a few more days. you think the dosage of 50mg proviron and 20mgs nolv is sufficient or should i bump up the nolv to 30-40mgs for the next few days.

[ROCKETW19]

i will give the nolv a few more days. you think the dosage of 50mg proviron and 20mgs nolv is sufficient or should i bump up the nolv to 30-40mgs for the next few days.

i dont know bro i never needed nolva the proviron seemed to keep me just perfect, somedays i would be sensitive and others fine. for me i might try 75mgs to see what happens. remember just cuzz your sensitive dosnt mean you are growing lumps under there. good luck.

[Lmg2701]

i will give the nolv a few more days. you think the dosage of 50mg proviron and 20mgs nolv is sufficient or should i bump up the nolv to 30-40mgs for the next few days.

If I begin to notice sensitivity I always jump to 40 mgs of nolva for a few days and then drop down to 20 mgs.

[Stonecold54]

just a small note bouncer...50mg of proviron for combating gyno using its anti-aromotase effects might not be enough. I personally can't wait to get some masteron in me and see what dose I need to keep me regular in the gyno dept because I should need a lot less than the equivalent of oral proviron since its injected and not passed throught he stomach. but like LMG I find that a quick shot of novalex over a couple days solves my problem right away.

[Bouncer]

going to bump up the nolv to 40mgs for a few days. i will keep you guys updated.

P.S. Just a little note about what I have noticed with the proviron/test cycle. I am holding far less water then normal thanks to the proviron, I also seem to be getting strong faster then with just test. I guess that is due to the higher levels of androgens. Veins are out much more then normal and my abs are leaner then 2 weeks ago. Diet hasn't changed so it is definitly burning fat.