Build me a cycle

[Bouncer]

Ok, been off for 3 months and will be off until after the new year.

I was thinking about trying a few different low dose compounds instead of 1 higher dosed compound. I think I want to run some deca in this cycle to help with the joints. Also going to run some low dose test, just enough to keep even levels. May even run it as low as 250mgs a week just to keep from shut down from the other compounds. I want to avoid running nolvadex or arimidex in this cycle and to do so I have to keep things like test, dbol, or anything else that converts to estrogen very low. Very sensitive to estrogen.

So lets say I am running test at 250mgs a week and deca at 300mgs a week. What else can I add that would work well with the test and deca in adding quality estrogen free mass? I was thinking something like tren but wanted some different opinions. I have never run tren before. Whatever you guys suggest, keep in mind that this 3rd compound will be the base as the test and deca are just to keep even levels and to help with the joints.

Thanks guys.

[Mr I]

Masteron all day long, get the injectable instead of Proviron so as to get better gains, 200mg every five days. Keep the deca low if your gonna use it at say 200mg per week.

I wouldn't put Tren with the deca, just seems like too much on the endocrine system.

[Bouncer]

Ok, forget the deca.

Going to be running Tren Enanthate. Was thinking 300mg of the tren per week and test at 250mgs per week. remember the test is just to keep even levels, not really trying to gain anything from the test. will 300mgs of the tren be enough to see results or what? never ran it before so dont know what to expect.

[Bouncer]

Since you don't like EOD shots, this would work...You know I don't think more is better; it's all about slow steady gains...I think this is why I've been able to keep most of my gains...It's better to slowly gain over a period of time...This way you don't crash like most do.

you think the test is enough to keep steady levels? i also wonder if i would benefit more from 400mgs of tren enath per week.

[Bouncer]

You've never ran low doses huh?

i have. my last cycle was test at 500mgs every 10 days. pretty low compared to most people. i still had to run a-dex to prevent gyno even at that low dose. this time, i want to avoid the test but i know the tren will shut me down so i figure i would run super low test to keep from having the sides of no test in my system. as far as the tren, never ran it so i am not sure how i will respond. will i see a difference between 300 and 400mgs per week.. ect.

[Bouncer]

And why the Deca? This is what I think about other compounds...Tren/Prop have always worked for me, so why add to it or change any of it...unless I'm going to compete(which I wont)...Just keep it simple...The whole point of using AS(for the most part)is to get big...And this can be done with very few simple compounds.

thats why i said, "forget the deca". it was for joint purposes anyway but i think since i wont have to run the adex, my joints wont bother me.

[Mr I]

tren enanth at 300mg PW will be a comfortable dose and the 250mg test wil be fine asa constant. No point overdoing the tren if its your first time, its a strong compound. Beware of prolactin gyno, SC has goos experience with tren he would be best to advise on stoping any gyno from tren.

[Bouncer]

tren enanth at 300mg PW will be a comfortable dose and the 250mg test wil be fine asa constant. No point overdoing the tren if its your first time, its a strong compound. Beware of prolactin gyno, SC has goos experience with tren he would be best to advise on stoping any gyno from tren.

would prolactin be a concern at 300mgs per week you think?

[Chadd77]

I am very sensitive to tren gyno. Damn it gets me bad. Only time I ever run it is if I'm competing. A couple weeks after I stop the tren the gyno goes away. Weird. Just be careful B. I was running it at 75mg/day. That may have been too high of a dose.

A question I always had is if your running test and tren or deca what do you use to prevent gyno? Armidex/letro/nolva for the test and Dostinex for the tren/deca?

[Stonecold54]

would prolactin be a concern at 300mgs per week you think?

I would start at 200 honestly. and go from there. I don't need any more than that to get stronger and fat melt off me. I didn't read all the posts but Tren E and maintenance dose test is my fav cycle now (along with masteron, I feel this makes the test work even better).

[Mr I]

would prolactin be a concern at 300mgs per week you think?

better be sure bro, tren gyno is a bitch (pardon the pun), its not bloated but proper hard under the nipple, make you look stupid doing a double bicepts when you skin goes tight.

SC - where are you on this?

there was a thread on here some time ago that you were involved in bro but basically certain anti e meds are a nono on tren, it may well be nolva

[Stonecold54]

I use dostinex once a week to be sure but I also don't go above 200mg a week, and really I only use about 150 per week. I get what I want out of it. 1 mg dostinex and 20mg novaldex and I am cool. I am doing deca/parabolan/test/masteron at the present.

[Stonecold54]

Not to be an ass SC...but you sure have done a lot of gear(from what you've posted through the years)and it seems like you haven't gone up much...When was the last time you took time off? How many compounds you running at once?

I took off probably 6 months about 3 years ago. I dont ever plan on coming off test. and pretty much my goal is to be lean and healthy. 250mg of test a week, 150mg of deca, 150 para (this is only for 8 week periods) and 250mg of masteron a week. I don't consider that much at all. my blood tests always come out on point so I don't see the need to change what I do. and again to restate I am not trying to be big anymore. I weigh about 210 now but I wouldn't mind dropping down to about a hard 195 and stay there. I most likely don't need the para/mast but I like to do short cycles of them cuz they make my "look" easier to achieve. I did do a ton of gear back in the day. of course most of it was mex so I don't consider it much at all honestly 1000mg of test with QV was probably equal to about 250 quality gear.

[Bouncer]

will start out at 200mgs a week of tren and see how it goes.

chad, 75mgs ED is pretty high. thats 525mgs per week. no wonder you got progestin gyno you dipshit. lol

[Bouncer]

1000mg of test with QV was probably equal to about 250 quality gear.

well considering i used 500mgs of QV test and blew up like a weed, i must be a genetic freak to blow up on 125mgs of test a week using your calculation. :P