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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by Shibby View Post
    do PCT and see if I can maintain the conditioning once my body is much lighter and my muscles have spent a long time under cardio stress.
    dont mean to be a kill joy but the whole "maintain" thing never works. you will always feel like shit when your off test because when your on you feel so much better.

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  • Stonecold54
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    Originally posted by Shibby View Post
    I guess my big question at this point is if 250 is a good dose or if I should go lower. I am going to go about 12 weeks and try and get myself under 200lbs at 5'11", do PCT and see if I can maintain the conditioning once my body is much lighter and my muscles have spent a long time under cardio stress. I do some lifting still, hitting all the muscle groups but I do a lot of compound exercises with body resistance.
    I think 250 will be fine.

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  • Shibby
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    I guess my big question at this point is if 250 is a good dose or if I should go lower. I am going to go about 12 weeks and try and get myself under 200lbs at 5'11", do PCT and see if I can maintain the conditioning once my body is much lighter and my muscles have spent a long time under cardio stress. I do some lifting still, hitting all the muscle groups but I do a lot of compound exercises with body resistance.

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  • Shibby
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    Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
    the sounds odd bro! is the bike ride far? how old are you? most important question when was the last time you had blood work done? It "sounds" more like you are not sleeping enough. Sleep is very important. Im gonna guess your levels are fine, especialy since you have been off for 2 years. Monitor your sleeping patern for a couple of days.
    The ride is about a mile and half. I ride a BMX style bike so I can have more fun than just pedaling. I get plenty of sleep. I can't function and I am miserable all day if I get less than 7 hours. So I make sure I get enough sleep. I gave myself plenty of time to see if I could get myself to recover after being on for almost a year. The best I have done was going running every morning Mon-Fri and it was stiff for almost 6 days. I was over trained.

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  • Stonecold54
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    Originally posted by Mr incredible View Post
    :rofl:It funny what people call being off
    lol for what I was on, that was OFF

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  • Stonecold54
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    Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
    you may be right. i just dont think proviron would do much in terms of recovery.
    are we using the term "recovery" in the same context? he is not talking about recovering hormonally. he is talking about recovering from exercise. if his goal is to increase his test count then proviron would do that to an extent. I was just giving him a mild option if he didn't want to gear up. but shooting test will accomplish the same thing.

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  • Mr I
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    Originally posted by Stonecold54 View Post
    I had gone off for six months...I was using proviron
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    :rofl:It funny what people call being off

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  • Bouncer
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    you may be right. i just dont think proviron would do much in terms of recovery.

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  • Stonecold54
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    Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
    when have you ever just used proviron alone for recovery? you are always on some kind of test.
    way back when I was trying to conceive kids, I had gone off for six months...I was using proviron for normalcy and sperm count and I felt good. then when I ran out my body just tanked so I am pretty sure the proviron was keeping me "normal" plus I can use a whole lot less test and get the same results for me.

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by Stonecold54 View Post
    well it works for me so I gave it to him as an option. his goal is to raise his test levels so I gave him some options.
    when have you ever just used proviron alone for recovery? you are always on some kind of test.

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  • ROCKETW19
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    Originally posted by Shibby View Post
    I plan on running 250mg a week of test cyp after we get pregnant. My research is starting with a different view on using test. I am simply using it to help with recovery and not for mass building. Is there any different advice to my goals versus a mass building goal?


    To elaborate, I can't go more than a couple days (riding my bike to work on Mon and Tues) of exercise before it wipes me out until the weekend. My body has declined in health and I am trying to change that.
    the sounds odd bro! is the bike ride far? how old are you? most important question when was the last time you had blood work done? It "sounds" more like you are not sleeping enough. Sleep is very important. Im gonna guess your levels are fine, especialy since you have been off for 2 years. Monitor your sleeping patern for a couple of days.

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  • Stonecold54
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    Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
    i think you are giving proviron a little to much credit there. proviron would help with recovery about as much at a candy bar. lol
    well it works for me so I gave it to him as an option. his goal is to raise his test levels so I gave him some options.

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  • Bouncer
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    Originally posted by Stonecold54 View Post
    I would almost think just some proviron (or masteron would be enough for you) to free up some bound test and up your levels a bit but.
    i think you are giving proviron a little to much credit there. proviron would help with recovery about as much at a candy bar. lol

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  • caged
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    Originally posted by Shibby View Post
    I plan on running 250mg a week of test cyp after we get pregnant. My research is starting with a different view on using test. I am simply using it to help with recovery and not for mass building. Is there any different advice to my goals versus a mass building goal?


    To elaborate, I can't go more than a couple days (riding my bike to work on Mon and Tues) of exercise before it wipes me out until the weekend. My body has declined in health and I am trying to change that.
    im sort of in the same situation. clean diet ect.. but because of my job right now im only hitiin the gym 2-3 days a week keeping my workouts light/mod. im not tryin to build any muscle mass, just tryin to maintain what iv have for the next 4-5 months.even playin around with my diet im wiped out by friday.

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  • Stonecold54
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    Originally posted by Shibby View Post
    We only have one car and I have to ride my bike to work. I am physically spent and have to go in early 2-3 days a week so I can still work. I am tired when working but I know I could never do it all day if I rode every day. I am literally on my feet walking all day. Beyond that I need to be exercising even more because a clean diet and the physical work I am doing is not enough to keep my body from turning to shit.
    hmmm, yeah then I would guess some maintenance test would help you. I would almost think just some proviron (or masteron would be enough for you) to free up some bound test and up your levels a bit but. Test would be surefire from what you describe. (cuz it sounds like when I was clean and not producing enough).

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