Converting the new Revalor 200 into Tren Ace

[fleabag711]

Heet is nothing like naoh. They are way different processes, but why bother buying a estro kit when all it is is supersaturated naoh aka Lye ..aka sodium hydroxide. And using it with syno doesn't give you test base but a mixture of test base and prop depending on how long you use it. What really pis*es me off is this reminds me of the days when their was a kit for sale from Dazed or whatever his name was? Nobody would let his secret out that he used naoh and swear it was something different. These are the same idiots who tell us to never put something in our body that we aren't sure of, that tell us the kits are a mystery, its chemistry and the knowledge of how to do it ourselves and correctly needs to be free. just my 2 cents

[rado]

kits use cottonseed oil and NaOH for the ester remover...any thoughts on using NaOH as some say it strips important esters from the Fina and we dont want that?? if you have been using whatever E remover comes in the kits wouldnt you say it was probably NaOH?? and you still had great results? thanks

The kits I order come with and Estro remover and I do not know exactly what the chemicals are, but I do trust them enough to know they are legit. Mavs is good, but what you need to understand here with all these kit companies; is the verbage.

Estro remover

Estro stabilizer

NaOH

HEET

They all practically do the same and IMO, it's a matter of preference on what you want. I am not CHEMICALLY inclined so if someone throws at me chem shit, I am going to be a :retard::retard: at responding, sorry. I think people are making this more complicated than it is.

It's NOT THAT hard. You strip the estro and you have your product. Now how you strip it? Well we have several ways of doing it. But if you think about it, same damn chemical at the end of the day that strips it. Just called something else or a different brand or different kit company. If you want higher yields, you need EO plain and simple.

You just can't get high yields with grape seed, cotton, etc...Not anymore these days. EO can hold the chemical with no crashing. Not sure the chemical reason behind it, but it works wonders. But some if not most can not handle EO oils and get rashes, blisters, etc.

Also these posts by various people ---you need to know exactly what that oestrogen solvent is. If it's just NaOH and you get things wrong then you'll end up with test base instead of test prop."
"This time I made an estro solubilizer that I made using aahep's recipe and got 90% yield (1 iteration). Been using it for a week and I'm guessing no excess estro--I'm not even holding water."

Any thoughts ?

Thoughts? /\

Well here are my thoughts on this.

Some people like myself will hold water no matter what you take. Some people can take Dbol and not hold water(just using that as an example)

What I am saying is that what works for others or myself, may or may not work for you. Some people like you have posted about IMO, just get too technical when it's so simple to make. If you are ordering kits with no estro remover, then you're ordering the wrong kit; period.

Terminology on these sites will fuck with peoples minds as you can see. Mavs and most are nothing but rip offs as to why people will make their own estro remover. These companies will sell you "kits" but oh wait, no estro remover or it's NOT complete?!?!?!? wtf:retard:

I don't give out sites of where I order from, but google kits with EO oils and you will find some. The company I use are very methodical on what they use, how they pack it and very precise on how they label their stuff. They also use ONLY EO oils for higher concentrations.

You're issues is this;

I'm telling you one thing, then you read another, then something else:panic::panic::panic::panic:

No wonder you're like wtf:ninja:

If you can somehow process my thread, you will be fine. I've been making fina into tren and syno into prop for 8yrs now and I've made quite a bit in my time, and now revalor 200.

[STSZ06vette]

Also these posts by various people ---you need to know exactly what that oestrogen solvent is. If it's just NaOH and you get things wrong then you'll end up with test base instead of test prop."
"This time I made an estro solubilizer that I made using aahep's recipe and got 90% yield (1 iteration). Been using it for a week and I'm guessing no excess estro--I'm not even holding water."

Any thoughts ?

[STSZ06vette]

kits use cottonseed oil and NaOH for the ester remover...any thoughts on using NaOH as some say it strips important esters from the Fina and we dont want that?? if you have been using whatever E remover comes in the kits wouldnt you say it was probably NaOH?? and you still had great results? thanks

[rado]

EVERYONE PLEASE POST HERE YOUR QUESTIONS

I get tons of PM's and I hate to answer each and every one of you individually BECAUSE, each of you have a different issue. So if we post them here, people would read them and hopefully you members would one day figure it out.


STOP STRESSING over the HEET shit, seriously. If you can get a KIT that has the estro remover(which you can, trust me)....YOU DO NOT NEED HEET IMO.

No baking is needed as well, STOP THE BAKING....I've clearly have laid it out for all of you to do...I have not though posted my final making of the revalor and I apologize but my career and family and being in other states, my training is more important right now. I need to get the pics uploaded in hopes to help more of you.

I thought by posting the process from start to finish would suffice.

[rado]

Pardon my ignorance.
I have gone through this thread a dozen times and still have some questions.
In reference to "fill the cup 1/2" from the top" I suppose you mean distilled water?
I gather that the water dripping into the mixture causes the trenbolone to crystallize, thereby creating a solid which is not water soluble. This is why you can rinse with so much distilled water?

From your step by step, I will be left with powdered trenbolone.
Am I then to use a standard Finaplix conversion kit to make the usable product?
I have a leftover tren kit so that is easy enough.

Thanks for your time.

No worries...That's why I posted this thread due to many people freaking out on the process since Fina is not sold anymore, but being replaced by revalor 200.

If anyone has ever converted Syno into prop, it's basically same process but this revalor is a tad bit more complexed....And when I say complexed, I mean having a bit more patience.

Your post is correct. I use 2 gallons and have used 3 gallons of distilled water, but 2 gallons is more than enough IMO.

But you have it figured out :)

I've done both in the fridge and being set outside during normal room temp and I find that the fridge just makes it easier on the crystallization process, I'm sure the cold temp has something to do with it...I'm not a chem wizard by any means, but room temp does tend to "drip" faster....BUT...the finished powder tends to be a bit more "mushy" not as hard like having it from the fridge.

I don't think this messes up the fina nor it compromises it either.

Hope you understand wtf I just posted...I'm exhausted right now...Let me know if you have any other questions and I'd be sure to help out.

Remember, what I post is simply MY OWN experience of converting and fucking up the process enough to have mastered, well at least for me. Currently I've made the conversion of 175mg's a CC:weights:

[drswade]

Pardon my ignorance.
I have gone through this thread a dozen times and still have some questions.
In reference to "fill the cup 1/2" from the top" I suppose you mean distilled water?
I gather that the water dripping into the mixture causes the trenbolone to crystallize, thereby creating a solid which is not water soluble. This is why you can rinse with so much distilled water?

From your step by step, I will be left with powdered trenbolone.
Am I then to use a standard Finaplix conversion kit to make the usable product?
I have a leftover tren kit so that is easy enough.

Thanks for your time.

[rado]

well i do fine with the oils that come in the kits which i thought is usually sesamee oil. i know of some test cyp that is 20% test cyp, benzyl benzoate 20%, benzyl alcohol 2%, and sesamee oil 58%

You will do "fine"

But most places now offer EO oil..best way to go IMO but not all can handle it due to allergic reactions from it. I just love EO oil because it's like water and yields higher concentrations.

[STSZ06vette]

well i do fine with the oils that come in the kits which i thought is usually sesamee oil. i know of some test cyp that is 20% test cyp, benzyl benzoate 20%, benzyl alcohol 2%, and sesamee oil 58%

[rado]

PM sent! and thanks for replying

If you want a higher yield, you need to go with Ethy Oil, period. But not everyone reacts good to it. Some get really bad rashes and shti. I was fine and love...I've even used a slin pin just to call out peoples BS and that's how thin it is and doesn't crash. I only use EO oil, that's it....Like water and yiled highers. I can add more karts and come out with mgs per cc.

[STSZ06vette]

thanks

PM sent! and thanks for replying

[rado]

appreciate it. i did a ton of looking and couldnt really find these answers and want people that have actually home brewed to answer these questions. If he or anyone has just used the little 5ml that comes w kit for 2-3 carts of the rev 200 then thats what i need to know. You would think an 8g kit would come with more than 5ml since that kit is normally used for converting 4 carts, so to me more than 5ml would come with the kit but its quite possible that 5ml is more than enough to remove Estra from more than 4+ carts of rev 200 but I need to be sure as Im super anal about having everything I need prior to converting. thanks again and I cant wait to get back in the game as ive been out for roughly 1.5 yrs and ive lost 20lbs of muscle etc.

Whatever you do, don't go making it obvious when ordering the kits where you told me about in your PM. I know the owner since I've ordered so much from him and even to me, he's still hesitant lol.


He's a good guy but keep those kinds of people far away from you. He's legit and some other guy out of Columbus OH is as well. Maverick(I refuse to mention the owners name)likes to bash the guy I know personally from Columbus OH because at one point he had issues but worked through them. At the end of the day man, they all use the same shit, packaging is different and price is very similar.

What sets everyone apart is customer service and how fast you get your shit and let's not forget, if they give your info the the LEO's.


As to why I have my stuff shipped to another city(3hrs away)under a different name and pick it up then. Don't be a fool like I've known some people and be lazy and NOT take out the Estro and take estro blockers; plain stupid. Do it right and you will love it. I keep saying I'm going to post pics and have not and that's my fault. But I posted a step by step process.

[rado]

im asking for your expert/experienced advice on the revalor kits ive been using this site for some time now to research this topic just recently registered though as you can see.
Do you know what the kit uses to break down the E in the revalor 200 kits?... Im NOT gonna use the HEET method as I use that shit in my water/meth injection system. I just want to make sure I get everything in order and havent ordered a kit yet because of this. I finally found and ordered 3 carts of the revalor 200 and def want to get this 20mg E out of it. Ive made probably 10-15 Fina H kits and got very good at it. within 2-3 days I would have a pretty sterile and potent mix :) Please help and offer your advice and if you know what the 5ml E remover is in the kits and if its enough to cover the 3 carts of revalor? also they didnt have a 6g kit which is what i would normally use for the 3 carts of fina h so since the 8g kit comes with 80ml of oil i just subtract 20ml right?

Yes most places on the net jump from a 4g kit to an 8g kit, not sure why. But I just get the 10g kit. I order my conversion kit from a trusted place and they give me exactly the right amount of mixture for the liquids....I just don't trust HEET, some swear by it. But I've done it so many times that I know how to do it with my eyes closed.

I've said it in this thread. MAKING REVALOR 200 and SYNO takes patience and about 2 gallons of distilled water, the more you filter, the better. This takes away the Estro from it. If you have no patience, you're fucked.

[rado]

I'd really like some input here and i know this topic has been beat to death but here is my concern
Ive did fina for about 2 years roughly 1.5 yrs ago and just ordered 8g kit and 3 carts of revalor 200
the Topgun(reference) website didnt have a 6g kit and it seems you use 20ml oil per cart so I just have to make sure to extract 20ml from the 80ml kit im getting correct?
Also it says its the reval 200s kit but noticed it only comes with 5ml of the ester solubilizer solution as well as the 12g kit only coming with 5ml. Is this 5ml going to extract 3 carts worth of estradiol out completely or do I need to buy more? You would think the kit would come with enough since its sold as a complete kit but at the bottom of the page it has them (estradiol) in 10m and higher varieties?

Next question is about the HEET and crystal method which scares the shit out of me even though HEET is 97-98% methenol I still rather use whats in the kit even though Im not 100% if its NaOH solution or some other chemical used to extract it?
I was VERY good at yielding a very high Tren per cc/ml and have crazy good results using FINA alone but now I can add test cyp into the mix!!!

ANY HELP WOULD BE GREAT AND THANKS GUYS

Every kart of revalor or fina pellets makes 200mgs of tren ace no matter how you slice it. If you ordered an 8g kit and have 3 karts, you need one more kart or your stuff will be weak, I mean really weak. They say(on the net) to consider about 3-4% loss in the making of it. It's almost near impossible to yield 100% unless it's pure powder and even then IMO, I don't think you can yield 100% even with powder. I DO NOT USE HEET!! No way.

I get my kits exactly for how many karts I get. It's weird to hear you type that you still get 5mls of the "solution" regardless of what size kit you get. PM if you want and let me know where you're getting the kits at, but I WILL NOT advise you nor direct you to any site. I do this for my own personal use and have been for ten years and I'm pretty much an expert at converting fina, syno and revalor. I'd be more than glad to help you out to the best of my ability on this board for others to learn.

But remember this; If you've never made prop from syno karts, be prepared to crash your shit so I would start with a 2g kit; shit happens and I've done it myself in the beginning. I yield 175mgs of tren ace at 1cc:D

But I also use 6 karts for a 4g kit and for a ten gram kit I use 14 karts and no it doesn't crash. I have my own method I've developed through the years and it's worked out beautifully :)

Yes you do extract 20mls of oil per cart but will lose about 1 to 2cc's during the process. Everyone has a different way of making it; i.e....coffee filter, letting drip, whatman(is my favorite, I literally use about 10 whatmans during a conversion).

[STSZ06vette]

appreciate it. i did a ton of looking and couldnt really find these answers and want people that have actually home brewed to answer these questions. If he or anyone has just used the little 5ml that comes w kit for 2-3 carts of the rev 200 then thats what i need to know. You would think an 8g kit would come with more than 5ml since that kit is normally used for converting 4 carts, so to me more than 5ml would come with the kit but its quite possible that 5ml is more than enough to remove Estra from more than 4+ carts of rev 200 but I need to be sure as Im super anal about having everything I need prior to converting. thanks again and I cant wait to get back in the game as ive been out for roughly 1.5 yrs and ive lost 20lbs of muscle etc.