Hope to find what caused gyno

[vinnie1938]

Thanx B and auri! Thats exactly why I'm asking because I read about it, B saying it's eough to tapper and it makes sense to me..but then again if I do nolv say 1month after it culd possibly shrink it even more, maybe to nothing..don't know, just thinking out loud :dunno:

[Bouncer]

if letro hasnt shrunken it dont get your hopes on for nolv bro. letro is a bomb, nolv is a bullet. both are effective but letro is on a different level at getting rid of gyno.

[vinnie1938]

if letro hasnt shrunken it dont get your hopes on for nolv bro. letro is a bomb, nolv is a bullet. both are effective but letro is on a different level at getting rid of gyno.

That's what I thought :S No, it's not gone entirelly and doubt it will in the next couple of weeks. So I guess lump is from puberty and it won't go away. But that's just a guess cause I don't know for sure how big it was before..think a little smaller then at the moment.
From what I read in the gyno thread I was hoping to get rid of it, especially in the long run...that's obviously not happening.

Thanks very much for help B!

[Bouncer]

no problem bro.

[vinnie1938]

Decided to end my letro run cause I feel lump isn't shrinking anymore. Isn't all gone, but pretty much same size as left, so assuming it's about the size as it has always been.
Started nolva 2days ago at 10mg and took my last 1/4letro pill last night, so overlapped nolva with letro for 2 days...as from today, I think nolva at 10mg for about 4weeks should be enough.

Interesting is that when I was on 1.25mg letro joints haven't been cracking as much as now as I added nolv and immediatly felt changes in my workout..strength droped a bit, also lower back pain immediatly started to show a little. The same sides as I already experienced due cycle when I used nolv..interesting...it looks like I'm better off with ai then nolv in terms of sides.

Also last two days as I added nolv experienced nips being little itchy and sensitive, damn..today from time to time I feel discomfort, slight pain in nip area, feels like something just ain't right with my nips :mad: Letro is still active so it shouldn't be a problem!? Nolv obviously isn't bunk cause something is definitely happening. Wtf??? :(

Thanx.

[Bouncer]

Decided to end my letro run cause I feel lump isn't shrinking anymore. Isn't all gone, but pretty much same size as left, so assuming it's about the size as it has always been.
Started nolva 2days ago at 10mg and took my last 1/4letro pill last night, so overlapped nolva with letro for 2 days...as from today, I think nolva at 10mg for about 4weeks should be enough.

Interesting is that when I was on 1.25mg letro joints haven't been cracking as much as now as I added nolv and immediatly felt changes in my workout..strength droped a bit, also lower back pain immediatly started to show a little. The same sides as I already experienced due cycle when I used nolv..interesting...it looks like I'm better off with ai then nolv in terms of sides.

Also last two days as I added nolv experienced nips being little itchy and sensitive, damn..today from time to time I feel discomfort, slight pain in nip area, feels like something just ain't right with my nips :mad: Letro is still active so it shouldn't be a problem!? Nolv obviously isn't bunk cause something is definitely happening. Wtf??? :(

Thanx.

i dont know if you think to much into things or what bro. nolv is nothing compared to letro in terms of drying out your joints. even if it was, its far to soon for you to feel anything from the nolv. your nips should not be sensative already. as you said the letro is still there.

if i were to put money on it, i would say your mind is working against you. to put your mind at ease you need complete blood work including testosterone and all other hormones.

[vinnie1938]

You're right, looking too much into things. But never the less, I feel discomfort and slight pain as soon as started nolv. Now if it's nolv or not, do not know, something is. I know it sounds strange, but had similar problems back on cycle when i've run it.

So I should just continue with nolv at 10mg and get my mind straight!? Maybe bloodwork after I discontinue with everything?

Thanx bro.

[Bouncer]

i would continue with nolv and try to forget about it.

[vinnie1938]

Thanx bro, I feel better already...I'll be posting back on how it goes.

Thanx again!

[Bouncer]

Thanx bro, I feel better already...I'll be posting back on how it goes.

Thanx again!

no prob. my mind had played tricks on me the same way. if you tell yourself something you can literly feel the effects. ever notice how when you start thinking about the gyno you can suddenly feel it more sensative? lol. crazy shit.

[vinnie1938]

Yeah man, it's really some crazy shit :) It plays with one's mind and fucks it up alot..

[vinnie1938]

Coming to the end of 4th week on nolva, 10mg through..I feel pretty much the same as on letro, maybe a little less shitty :) The first week after stopped letro and began nolva I felt better for short period of time, even libido was coming back, then it pretty much wanished again :( I'm assuming it's because of nolva?!

The day before yesterday forgot to take my nolva and took it last night again...yesterday in the afternoon began to feel more bloated and as the nolva has pretty much short active time and should be taken ed, I wonder if it could mean my estro is still a little high from rebound or it's my mind playing against me?!

Thanx.

[vinnie1938]

Came to an end of 4weeks nolva, it's the 3rd day now and looks ok for now. As for the previous post, paranoia is obviously killing me :( This damn gyno issue, really, the hardest thing is to control your self. The mind messes with you and you keep thinking on the same shit over and over again. This has been a damn hard expirience.

How long should I wait for doing a hormonal panel? I was planning on doing it 2mounths after last nolva dosage..or should I wait longer? I'm pretty sure that I've read somewhere nolva sticks in you for about 7-12weeks?!

Thanx.

[Bouncer]

can you see or feel any gyno? if not dont worry about it.

[vinnie1938]

can you see or feel any gyno? if not dont worry about it.

It's all good for now(apart from slight lump on the right side from puberty, but it's not really that visible), I'll report back how things go..I was asking about testing hormones so I know when I can start another cycle. As I sad, planning to wait at least 2 mounths...