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  • #16
    Originally posted by dago View Post
    you gotta think guys if tren is 3x more the androgen than test and how we respond to test just adding a bit of tren to test is all that's needed IMO..
    IM SOLD!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jack tors View Post
      Nothing gives me size like tren. It comes at a price though. the cardio and breathing was bad where i almost came off. I starting seeing sides at 300mg PW (and up) of tren E (no really gyno) insomnia and breathing. I got better results from Tren ACE but had crazy prolactin sides. I think we are very similar as far as sensitve and gyno issues. i think 150 would be fine. be carefil if you up it. i would use the nolva or adex (better) with it.
      ya tren zaps cardio but B dont do anything that needs cardio so he will be ok.
      side note adex or nolva will do nothing for tren.

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      • #18
        So the test I am using is 300mg/ml and the tren is 200mg/ml

        Think I will do 1 and a half cc of test (450mg) and half a cc tren (100mg) per week.

        That way I keep each injection no more then 2cc.

        Thoughts?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
          So the test I am using is 300mg/ml and the tren is 200mg/ml

          Think I will do 1 and a half cc of test (450mg) and half a cc tren (100mg) per week.

          That way I keep each injection no more then 2cc.

          Thoughts?
          perfect

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
            ya tren zaps cardio but B dont do anything that needs cardio so he will be ok.
            side note adex or nolva will do nothing for tren.
            not really true... i always thought that tooo. stang pointed out if you control TOTAL estrogen then you will not need a prolactin antagonist like caber or prami. to technical for me to explain it. maybe he can chime in. he got his info from the dr who specializes in PCT etc. i dont remember his name... seemed to work i started adex day 1 with tren...no sensitive nips.

            http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...prolactin-gyno

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            • #21
              Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
              Auri peeked my curiosity in my t3/clen thread.

              I used tren E in the past I believe at a dose of 300mg per week. It was far to much for me and fucked me mentally and made my tits hurt.

              What are you guys thoughts on trying it again but at a much lower dose like 150mgs per week combined with test at 500mgs per week?
              Try TREN ACE (QUICK ACTING,,IN AND OUT) Use small dosages like 30-50mg ED or even EOD.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by jack tors View Post
                not really true... i always thought that tooo. stang pointed out if you control TOTAL estrogen then you will not need a prolactin antagonist like caber or prami. to technical for me to explain it. maybe he can chime in. he got his info from the dr who specializes in PCT etc. i dont remember his name... seemed to work i started adex day 1 with tren...no sensitive nips.

                http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...prolactin-gyno
                ya on paper that works but not in real life i once belived that also and it did not work.

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                • #23
                  i agree with rocket, i have real world experience here. was on 2.5mgs per day of letro and the nips sensativity and puffyness would not go away until i dropped tren.

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                  • #24
                    good point...i trust you guys more than some doc who probably never used AAS.

                    B, you really want to run tren? i feel like it recks havoc on my body. not just talking about the normal sides. no longer than 12 weeks.

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                    • #25
                      i want to give it 1 more try before i totally write it off. have you ever run it at such a low dose as i am talking about?

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                        i agree with rocket, i have real world experience here. was on 2.5mgs per day of letro and the nips sensativity and puffyness would not go away until i dropped tren.
                        strange how these aas affect everyone different tren never bothered my nips at all only when I ran high test and dbol or adrol did my nips get a lil itchy..never with tren

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by dago View Post
                          strange how these aas affect everyone different tren never bothered my nips at all only when I ran high test and dbol or adrol did my nips get a lil itchy..never with tren
                          ya we are all different.
                          you are sensitive to estrogen and i am not but complete opsite with tren (progestrone) I cant take to much and you can.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Post
                            i agree with rocket, i have real world experience here. was on 2.5mgs per day of letro and the nips sensativity and puffyness would not go away until i dropped tren.
                            yup i did same thing and killed my estrogen and had to deal with that same time dealing with the progestrone gyno.
                            I can say it was by far the wost feeling I have ever had.
                            zero estogen is worse IMO than gyno though ( the feeling at least)

                            BUt I belived the no estro bull shit so went for it fuck that never again.
                            for me I learned a leasson NEVER take a drug just so you can take another. I just lower my dose now and all is good.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Post
                              for me I learned a leasson NEVER take a drug just so you can take another. I just lower my dose now and all is good.
                              i am hoping that will be what happens with such a low dose of tren.

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                              • #30
                                I'll tell ya what. Dropping tren feels damn near like coming off a test only cycle. I'm still running test (just finished my last week of 400mg) now I'll be cruising at 200mg/ew. But the difference in the last couple weeks as the tren has fully left my system is pretty dramatic. Went from full god mode (feeling) to almost a god mode, lol.

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