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ya tren zaps cardio but B dont do anything that needs cardio so he will be ok.Originally posted by jack tors View PostNothing gives me size like tren. It comes at a price though. the cardio and breathing was bad where i almost came off. I starting seeing sides at 300mg PW (and up) of tren E (no really gyno) insomnia and breathing. I got better results from Tren ACE but had crazy prolactin sides. I think we are very similar as far as sensitve and gyno issues. i think 150 would be fine. be carefil if you up it. i would use the nolva or adex (better) with it.
side note adex or nolva will do nothing for tren.
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not really true... i always thought that tooo. stang pointed out if you control TOTAL estrogen then you will not need a prolactin antagonist like caber or prami. to technical for me to explain it. maybe he can chime in. he got his info from the dr who specializes in PCT etc. i dont remember his name... seemed to work i started adex day 1 with tren...no sensitive nips.Originally posted by ROCKETW19 View Postya tren zaps cardio but B dont do anything that needs cardio so he will be ok.
side note adex or nolva will do nothing for tren.
http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...prolactin-gyno
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Try TREN ACE (QUICK ACTING,,IN AND OUT) Use small dosages like 30-50mg ED or even EOD.Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View PostAuri peeked my curiosity in my t3/clen thread.
I used tren E in the past I believe at a dose of 300mg per week. It was far to much for me and fucked me mentally and made my tits hurt.
What are you guys thoughts on trying it again but at a much lower dose like 150mgs per week combined with test at 500mgs per week?
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ya on paper that works but not in real life i once belived that also and it did not work.Originally posted by jack tors View Postnot really true... i always thought that tooo. stang pointed out if you control TOTAL estrogen then you will not need a prolactin antagonist like caber or prami. to technical for me to explain it. maybe he can chime in. he got his info from the dr who specializes in PCT etc. i dont remember his name... seemed to work i started adex day 1 with tren...no sensitive nips.
http://www.superiormuscle.com/forums...prolactin-gyno
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strange how these aas affect everyone different tren never bothered my nips at all only when I ran high test and dbol or adrol did my nips get a lil itchy..never with trenOriginally posted by THE BOUNCER View Posti agree with rocket, i have real world experience here. was on 2.5mgs per day of letro and the nips sensativity and puffyness would not go away until i dropped tren.
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ya we are all different.Originally posted by dago View Poststrange how these aas affect everyone different tren never bothered my nips at all only when I ran high test and dbol or adrol did my nips get a lil itchy..never with tren
you are sensitive to estrogen and i am not but complete opsite with tren (progestrone) I cant take to much and you can.
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yup i did same thing and killed my estrogen and had to deal with that same time dealing with the progestrone gyno.Originally posted by THE BOUNCER View Posti agree with rocket, i have real world experience here. was on 2.5mgs per day of letro and the nips sensativity and puffyness would not go away until i dropped tren.
I can say it was by far the wost feeling I have ever had.
zero estogen is worse IMO than gyno though ( the feeling at least)
BUt I belived the no estro bull shit so went for it fuck that never again.
for me I learned a leasson NEVER take a drug just so you can take another. I just lower my dose now and all is good.
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I'll tell ya what. Dropping tren feels damn near like coming off a test only cycle. I'm still running test (just finished my last week of 400mg) now I'll be cruising at 200mg/ew. But the difference in the last couple weeks as the tren has fully left my system is pretty dramatic. Went from full god mode (feeling) to almost a god mode, lol.
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