So, hypothetically, if I were, hypothetically going to do a cycle...

[NewbieChris]

it would look like this:

16 weeks
20cc's Tren Ace 100mg
10cc's MASTERONE 100mg
20cc's Eq 300 mg
20cc's Primobolan 200mg

8 weeks
Anavar 40mg/day
+
Second 8 weeks
T-Bol 50mg/day

Running with Aromasin 20mg 3x week

Hypothetical thoughts?

[NewbieChris]

I know there is some rough stuff there...

[Bouncer]

First cycle and you've got 6 different drugs plus tren one of the harshest. Plus no test. Horrible idea. You have no idea how your body will react to any of it.

Without test in the Cycle you will be shutting your natty test levels down without replacing them. Have you seriously learned nothing at all from your years on the forums?

Test 300mgs E5D
Mast 200mgs E5D
Anavar 50mgs ED

Strict diet. That's what you should run. If you run the Cycle you proposed you will be an absolute mess. Physically and emotionally.

[Chadd77]

How long has it been since you were on? If it's been a while I'd say keep it even more simple and run 300mg test a week.

[NewbieChris]

First cycle and you've got 6 different drugs plus tren one of the harshest. Plus no test. Horrible idea. You have no idea how your body will react to any of it.

Without test in the Cycle you will be shutting your natty test levels down without replacing them. Have you seriously learned nothing at all from your years on the forums?

Test 300mgs E5D
Mast 200mgs E5D
Anavar 50mgs ED

Strict diet. That's what you should run. If you run the Cycle you proposed you will be an absolute mess.

I know that Tren is supported to shut down the test, but what I've read is that it helps with fat loss and building muscle. I didn't think about Test, but I honestly would like to keep the Tren...

[Bouncer]

I know that Tren is supported to shut down the test, but what I've read is that it helps with fat loss and building muscle. I didn't think about Test, but I honestly would like to keep the Tren...

Go ahead, keep it in. Run the cycle you proposed. See what happens. What would I know. :)

I'm just going on the record and saying it's one of the worst possible cycles I can think of. That cycle WILL lower testosterone levels and raise estrogen levels. The very last thing you want when trying to burn fat. You may have side effects coming from 4 different directions. You won't know if your gyno is estrogen based or progesterone based for example. Have fun.

[NewbieChris]

Do you have a suggestion that includes Tren? Also, I know that I need a pct with Chlomid/HCG after. I should have included that above. Does that change your opinion?

You know I'm not trying to come off as a know it all. I've just really like what I've read about Teen.

[rado]

Do you have a suggestion that includes Tren? Also, I know that I need a pct with Chlomid/HCG after. I should have included that above. Does that change your opinion?

You know I'm not trying to come off as a know it all. I've just really like what I've read about Teen.

Tren is not for the first timers, take it from me who's always used it un every cycle, just about.

Not sure why you have so many drugs there, more drugs or harsher ones do not necessarily give you better or greater results. Training and food is what you need on top of just some test and maybe some anavar or eq

[Bouncer]

Do you have a suggestion that includes Tren? Also, I know that I need a pct with Chlomid/HCG after. I should have included that above. Does that change your opinion?

You know I'm not trying to come off as a know it all. I've just really like what I've read about Teen.

What you've read and reality are 2 different things. Everyone reacts differently to different drugs which is why you should start slow and run 1 compound at a time so you know exactly how the body reacts and how to counter sides.

If you must run tren...

Test 300mgs E5D
Tren 150mgs E5D
Anavar 50 ED
Adex .25mgs EOD

[Bouncer]

I'll also say. The only possible chance you have with loose skin issues aside from surgery is GH. Steroids won't help there. GH might be able to tighten some of that shit up but GH works slowly. I'd say 3-4 IU over the course of a year may help.

[Chadd77]

You need to get yourself some "Rocket black tops" HGH. Only the best on the market. I push them on here. Let me know if you need a hookup!

[Bouncer]

You need to get yourself some "Rocket black tops" HGH. Only the best on the market. I push them on here. Let me know if you need a hookup!

Rocket still fat. Must not work.

[Chadd77]

Rocket still fat. Must not work.

You know if he sees this he'll call you a little boy!

[Bouncer]

You know if he sees this he'll call you a little boy!

Lil boy will crush him in the gym. He up to 15lb dbs yet? :D

I won't treat his injured hand kindly...

https://youtu.be/jUORL-bvwA0

[razo]

I agree with Bouncer when it comes to Tren. It's definitely not for beginners. I've used it in the past and got great results but the Fina cough, high blood pressure, acid indegestion, very bad temper was enough to make me not want to touch it again.

If I was to do it, I would do eod at low dosage. I've never tried Tren Enanthate.