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  • #16
    Yea, but Germany is like 5 times more strict than the US.. I wouldn't be allowed to order anything from Russia

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    • #17
      Originally posted by chuckz28 View Post
      How the hell do you think they catch the big fish? They go up the food chain. Yes controlled deliveries happen to users with what we would consider small amounts and yes they do put devices in the boxes. Simply accepting the package is enough to have them swarm the house, arrest you and make you talk. Law enforcement uses all kinds of tools and tactics to get to the top.

      We are dealing with using the mail to move illegal drugs. Don't pretend normal people don't get caught. Jerry Ward did a video where he explained how he has friends in jail right now that we're just busted buying personal use steroids. Check other forums. It happens.

      Personally I would not sign for anything, I would not answer the door, if they set it down let it sit there for a day or 2, take it for a drive and open it somewhere else. Best case scenario is nothing happens but if the possibility is there to ruin your life then take the precautions.

      Here is a story about one such controlled delivery:
      Here’s a controlled delivery story from Maryland. I’m reproducing it here in the client’s very own words, just as he sent it to me by e-mail, with only a couple of minor but necessary identity changes:

      I was washing my car at approximately 11:00 a.m. when the postman approached with a package. He asked if the address was 1628 and I answered yes and took the package. I set the package down in the garage area and continued to dry my car off. At this time unmarked vehicles swarmed the driveway, a tall male got out the car closest to me and asked if I was [name]. When I answered yes he immediately handcuffed me and said I was under arrest for possession of narcotics and they had a warrant to search the premises. He then proceeded to walk me into the garage area while other agents entered the house. Moments later they came back out and said, “We’re clear.”

      I was then escorted into the house and sat down in the kitchen. I asked to see the warrant and the tall male informed me that it was not my property, and my parents would see it when they got home. They did not have a warrant at this time because phone calls were being made to see if they had it yet. Also, other agents were complaining about the process of getting a warrant, saying that it took too long to get a hold of the judge in many cases. I was questioned about the contents of the package that was delivered and told them I didn’t know. It was labeled as PC software, so I told them it probably was. I received packages quite regularly, and explained the return address didn’t sound familiar but I do sign up to receive free items quite often. An officer then showed me two packages that had been stopped by Customs and asked what I knew about them, and I told him I knew nothing about them. They asked me if I had any drugs in the house and I told him I had some capsules of DNP, an abbreviation for 2,4 dinitrophenol, a legal pesticide. I showed two agents where the DNP was located, and told them I also had some white pills that I could not identify.

      I was then walked back into the kitchen. One agent began asking me for general information (name, address, phone # etc.) but he was interrupted by a female officer because she wanted to read me my rights. Other agents were searching the yard and other rooms in the home. The officers again began to question me about the package, trying to intimidate me. At this time a female officer opened the parcel and inside were twelve ampoules of Sustanon 250. They asked me what they were and by reading the label I was able to tell them the Sustanon looked to be testosterone. I was told I was a “low man on their totem pole” and they hadn’t been very busy lately. They said if the drugs were for someone else, I should call that person and they would arrest him instead of me. I also was questioned about some old friends and they said they could make things a lot easier on me if I would sign up to be a confidential informant and help them make a few busts. I was also questioned about who was growing pot in the area. I told them I didn’t know because I got myself out of that life many years ago.

      At this time another female officer was left to “baby-sit” me while the officer who was questioning me went to search the vehicles including a 1993 Dodge that it was later discovered was not on the search warrant. At one point an agent came out and said, “We have a whole pharmacy back there.” They continued to badger me into cooperation and tell them about the drugs and it was at this time I invoked my Miranda rights. The tall male that made the arrest said my mother was on her way home. Not much more was said and a little later the agents brought out two large paper bags, a desktop computer, and a rifle from my room. When an officer asked if I should stay until my mother arrived, the tall male explained that he did not really call her. No one was notified of my arrest during this search and I was not able to call a lawyer when I requested, which I thought I had the right to do as an American citizen. The arresting officer even told me a lawyer couldn’t do anything for except tell me to sit there and cooperate. He said I would have an opportunity to do so at the detention center.
      When did this happen and in what state?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by boricuarage79 View Post
        That's Bullshit.. at least in Germany... if the shit fits in the mail box you ain't got a sign for it.. happens to me many times with gear cause it fits

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        in the us if its sig required they will not leave it.

        lol @ you guys being scared over a kit of gh. they dont give a shit.

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        • #19
          Who is you guys? Certainly ain't me.. I ain't got a deal with it

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          • #20
            Originally posted by BowHunter View Post
            When did this happen and in what state?
            read bro its from maryland.

            dont let it bother you. your gonna laugh once you realize you made such a big deal of this.

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            • #21
              id go pick it up or let it be delivered. I've done it a million times.

              guys like chuck and avid are paranoid over everything. your not getting arrested over a kit of gh from russia. its not worth law enforcement time or money.

              anyone can post a horror story about anything. people have died getting routine dental work done. doesnt mean its likely or probable. a guy in Maryland got popped. so what? people also get struck by lighting. get a grip.

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              • #22
                OK, I will sign for it but still nervous. Gonna write return to sender on it as soon as I close the door.

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                • #23
                  By the way. If it was actually flagged and opened here is what would have happened.

                  It would have been seized by customs at JFK airport and you would have gotten a letter in the mail telling you it was seized and if you want to make a claim on it you can. Obviously you don't want to make a claim on it. LoL.

                  I had that happen to me back in the day. I had 500 Thai dbol tabs and 500 Thai winstrol tabs seized. They sent me a letter...

                  And here you are worried over a fucken kit. Lol.

                  Now if it was 20 kits and they could pop you for distribution then it would be worth their time.

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                  • #24
                    I'm glad I haven't ordered any gear yet.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Bouncer View Post
                      By the way. If it was actually flagged and opened here is what would have happened.

                      It would have been seized by customs at JFK airport and you would have gotten a letter in the mail telling you it was seized and if you want to make a claim on it you can. Obviously you don't want to make a claim on it. LoL.

                      I had that happen to me back in the day. I had 500 Thai dbol tabs and 500 Thai winstrol tabs seized. They sent me a letter...

                      And here you are worried over a fucken kit. Lol.

                      Now if it was 20 kits and they could pop you for distribution then it would be worth their time.
                      I agree bro.. Always order in small Quantities

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                      • #26
                        your fine, i had to do the same... i was a little worried for no reason

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                        • #27
                          It's not a big deal. They should have had somebody else just deliver the package if the carrier was gone already. Go pick it up.

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                          • #28
                            I'm torn. I would like it today but I think it's smarter to wait for it to be delivered.

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                            • #29
                              got a call from the post office

                              I agree with bouncer. There's nothing to worry About if they wanted to pop you they would've done it differently


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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by BowHunter View Post
                                I'm torn. I would like it today but I think it's smarter to wait for it to be delivered.
                                Okay, if it was a controlled delivery (which it's not) you think they are sitting at the post office all day today waiting in case you show up? I'd rather go to the post office when they don't know I'm coming then sitting at home waiting for them to come to my house.

                                Go get the pack... I work for the post office, trust me.

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