Being OFF Steroids

[redback]

U welcome.

We fucking?

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Yeh i'd have a crack.

[Bouncer]

Some people disagree with you fuck wit....but yes you will loose some strength but I think you will find most ppl who come of stop eating, and also start training like a bitch, pretty much how you train ( for the pump ) gaylord.

I had my last drol about 4 days before my assult incident. Thats about 2 weeks now. prior to that my last test shot was 3 weeks earlier. So thats 5 weeks being off test and 2 weeks off drol.

When I was on my cals were around 3000. They are now at 4500. My back weights have actually increased in that last two weeks. Yes I have lost about two pounds but my strength currently is just as good, better on back movements but I am training like an absolute nut. I'm still trying to increase the weights and the cals and i can't complain because atm it seems to be working. You can't say there is any gear in my system...its all food.

If you been taking gear 10-15 years get off and eat a surplus. U won't lose shit. U will just look softer, but can still.stay lean. Not that hard grainy look like my cock

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i can answer both posts with 1 word... TIME. you may not notice it too much at first but over time (starting around 2-3 months after last injection) you will slowly start to decline. the pump gets less and less, getting that last rep becomes harder, confidence slowly fades, and around month 4 of being off you grow a vagina.

[boricuarage79]

i can answer both posts with 1 word... TIME. you may not notice it too much at first but over time (starting around 2-3 months after last injection) you will slowly start to decline. the pump gets less and less, getting that last rep becomes harder, confidence slowly fades, and around month 4 of being off you grow a vagina.

Confidence yes. Not being able to fuck every day yes.
Nothing wrong with having a vagina. U r wat u eat

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[redback]

i can answer both posts with 1 word... TIME. you may not notice it too much at first but over time (starting around 2-3 months after last injection) you will slowly start to decline. the pump gets less and less, getting that last rep becomes harder, confidence slowly fades, and around month 4 of being off you grow a vagina.

Well im planning to go on again mid August so once again Redback will defeat time itself.

[rado]

It's not mental when you can't rep 325 on flat for ten, vs now at 4 reps. No I wouldn't be able to maintain that type of heavy weight, and I'd be lying if I said I could.

I just told b the other day how I can't recall the last time my body wasn't sore. Since being off, my recovery is forever, like never ending. It sucks!

Do you think the lighter weights is more a mental thing? If you upped the cals slightly and kept with the heavy weights you think you could maintain it?

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[rado]

have you ever tried to just blow up while on? i know you used to carry more water and bf% but I wonder how much you could weigh if you went on and just ate fucken everything!

i bet you could hit 250lbs before you dropped dead. :thumup:

I've thought of it, but it was a thought lol

No bro, never will that happen...fuck that

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[rado]

If you been taking gear 10-15 years get off and eat a surplus. U won't lose shit. U will just look softer, but can still.stay lean. Not that hard grainy look like my cock

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Not eating surplus but I definitely look softer at 190lbs. I went as high as 202(holidays)and stayed at 197/198 with a good look that I want to maintain.

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[rado]

I disagree with confidence. I'm always confident no matter my look or feel. Whether I execute it or not is another story.

But I'm never NOT confident.

i can answer both posts with 1 word... TIME. you may not notice it too much at first but over time (starting around 2-3 months after last injection) you will slowly start to decline. the pump gets less and less, getting that last rep becomes harder, confidence slowly fades, and around month 4 of being off you grow a vagina.

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[boricuarage79]

Not eating surplus but I definitely look softer at 190lbs. I went as high as 202(holidays)and stayed at 197/198 with a good look that I want to maintain.

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Yea. Just speaking in general. It happens without the anabolic androgens. Even on test I look soft no matter if on surplus or deficit. Cardio or not.I Just look fuller and more dense on the shoulders and back and of course stronger.
Now that i started my surplus is gona be ugly lol.
Gota make up for those calories i missed while i was in egypt.
Swear i was eating like 1000 calories a day and mainly carbs.

But as long as you feel healthy is all that matters mamon.


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[rado]

Yea. Just speaking in general. It happens without the anabolic androgens. Even on test I look soft no matter if on surplus or deficit. Cardio or not.I Just look fuller and more dense on the shoulders and back and of course stronger.
Now that i started my surplus is gona be ugly lol.
Gota make up for those calories i missed while i was in egypt.
Swear i was eating like 1000 calories a day and mainly carbs.

But as long as you feel healthy is all that matters mamon.


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Ok papi chulo :thumup:

[redback]

A little off topic but the powerlifters absolutely love Tren for strength. They all swear by it on the forums.

[chuckz28]

i can answer both posts with 1 word... TIME. you may not notice it too much at first but over time (starting around 2-3 months after last injection) you will slowly start to decline. the pump gets less and less, getting that last rep becomes harder, confidence slowly fades, and around month 4 of being off you grow a vagina.

This is exactly it. Decline for me lasted 3ish months or so before a slow upswing. Even if your test levels come back in 2 months, it takes some time for the natty test to soak the receptors or something because its like molasses.

When you are on the upswing progress is slow as fuck and fatigue/ injury occur at a higher rate. I had to completely change the way I work out to make progress again. It's not just the weight, the amount of volume and frequency you do on gear simply can not be maintained on Natty test.

[redback]

This is exactly it. Decline for me lasted 3ish months or so before a slow upswing. Even if your test levels come back in 2 months, it takes some time for the natty test to soak the receptors or something because its like molasses.

When you are on the upswing progress is slow as fuck and fatigue/ injury occur at a higher rate. I had to completely change the way I work out to make progress again. It's not just the weight, the amount of volume and frequency you do on gear simply can not be maintained on Natty test.

So you dont do PCT?

[boricuarage79]

So you dont do PCT?

Pct is for the weak

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[chuckz28]

So you dont do PCT?

I did a full pct after my last cycle about 2 years ago. Waited about 3 or so weeks after stopping and did 6 weeks of clomid and nolva. Never recovered, well I didn't recover well at least.

I've essentially been on permanent pct since. Been on perscribed clomid for about 2 years now. Doc tried to ween me off and my levels plummeted again so I'm likely on some form of trt for life.